Updates and New Items

The Ostrich bags are booked on a ship due to arrive on 8/27. If there is no trouble with typhoons, pirates, or customs, we'll have them a few days to a week after that date.

We now stock Nitto Noodle and Classic handlebars.

There are two new shades of elk hide bar wraps, light brown and honey. We're also using a new thinner and narrower tape that makes them easier to install. We'll post a photo soon.

Cork grips for city bikes are available for $10. A shellaced version will be $18.

The first batch of Randonneur frames are sold out. The next batch are available at $1450. And we have decided to add three optional colors, French blue, orange, and black.

Pssst.... Wanna buy a frame?

Preliminary Specifications for the Velo Orange Semi-Custom Randonneur Frame

• Each frame is made to measure based on rider's body measurments, weight, and preferences.
  
• Kalavinka lugs
  
• Extended head tube (15-20mm)
• Trail of around 45mm
• BB drop of about 75mm
  
• Fork blades bent in the “French fashion”
• Vertical dropouts with single eyelets
• Set up for Paul Racer brakes on studs (Velo Orange will offer these at cost)
• Setup for side pull or regular center pull brakes is a no-cost option
• Flat fork crown
• Tubes choice based on frame size and rider’s weight
• Silver brazed in the US
  
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• Constructeur style slap guard
• Room for fenders and 32mm tires
• 1-degree top tube upslope
• Silver-gray paint, or one of three optional colors
  
• A custom front and and rear rack will be available
• Extra long Honjo fenders made for this frame are planned.
• 700c wheel size (possibly 650b on smaller sizes)
• 3 simple and elegant decals under clear coat

Braze-On List:

• Top tube cable stops at lower left
• Down tube shifter bosses
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• Rear derailleur cable stop
• 2x water bottle
• Brake cable hanger
• Chain hanger
• Pump peg
• Slap guard
• Fender attachments on bridges and crown
• Centerpull brake studs for Paul Racer brakes
• Front rack eyelets on fork blades
• Stud for rear light between the seat stays as on Weigle frames (if we can source the proper lights)

Price: $1450.

A full custom version of this frame with choice of lugs, color, tubing, and just about anything else will also be available.

A production version is planned for next summer and the cost will be about $1050. These will be made by a very well respected builder in Japan.

Delivery time: 5-6 months

The images on the left are of frames by Johnny Coast, the builder of VO frames.

Nominal Geometry (to be modified for custom fit by builder)

Frame Size (c-c)	52	54	56	58	60	62
Top Tube	52	53	55	57	58.5	60.5
Head Angle	73	73	73	73	73	73
Seat Angle	73	73	72.5	72.5	72.5	72.5
Chain Stays	43.5	43.5	44.0	44.0	44.0	44.5
Fork Offset	54	54	57	57	57	57

An All-Around Bike Should Not be Versatile

Too often we mistake a bike that's built to accept any number of different components, wheels, racks, and drivetrains for a good all around bike. But that sort of frame is more often just a compromise. A good all-arounder is best built with very specific components and accessories in mind.

I've been riding my Ebisu a lot lately; it's about the only bike I ride anymore. With it's 30mm tires, wide gearing, small front rack, and mix of old and new components it can do almost anything. I ride it fast on paved roads, enjoy the gravel-like towpath on the C&O canal, I potter over the brick and cobble streets in our 350-year-old town on it, and I can go inn-to-inn touring. All this and I never change anything on the bike, other than occasionally hanging the larger handlebar and saddle bags. The trick to a good all-around machine is in building both the frame and the bike with great care and as an integrated unit, not as a collection of interchangable parts.

I've been thinking about this a lot as we plan the Velo Orange randonneuse frame. It will be a frame designed around very specific parts so it can do a lot of things well. Being a moderately low trail design will force the rider to use a handlebar bag as the primary piece of luggage. Big rear panniers will compromise handling. That may seem like a limitation, but this geometry will also make the bike more stable and more precise in corners.

The tires for our bike should be between 26 and 32mm wide and not pumped up too hard; go too wide or too narrow and the bike won't ride or handle as it should. The fenders should be 43mm Honjos, which we will stock. Sure, other fenders will fit, but they won't look quite as nice. The front rack will be small and made especially for this frame. The current rear rack will also fit, but a slightly smaller and lighter version will be made just for this frame. The recommended brakes will be such that good modulation, not simply maximum stopping power, is considered.

If this sounds like a constructeur bike, well, that's the idea. The plan is to start by having a few semi-custom prototypes made by a first class US builder. These will not be inexpensive frames, but by making them all almost identical the price will be well below that of a full custom bike. Interested?

Eventually we'll try to duplicate the geometry and features in a production frame. A production constructeur bike? Will Herse and Singer be rolling over in their graves?

Oh yes, one final detail: they will be silver with orange lettering.

UPDATE: The cost for the first few prototypes will be around $1200. You get custom fit and tube selection in a handmade silver brazed frame with Kalavinka lugs.

A Tournesol 650B

I asked Steve Hampsten to send a few photos of one of the terrific Tournesol bikes he builds. To be honest, I was hoping for pictures of one of the carbon fiber randonneus he creates. But his new 650b bike is even better.

This is Steve's personal bike and it reflects his opinion that bikes should be built to be used. We spoke today and both agreed that some of the top end bikes are so superbly finished and expensive that their owners might be afraid to take them on a dirt road. So Steve's bikes, while still beautiful, are a little simpler in finish. And they are a bit less expensive. He thinks of them as the ultimate semi-custom bikes, rather than as your final custom bike.

This is not to say that he skimps on the details. Look at the rear rack attachment. On the other hand don't; it makes Velo Orange racks look ordinary. And the lug work is hardly simple. And note the slap guard and rear cable hanger.

Click on the photos to enlarge them. And please tell us what you think.

New Front Rack Photos

Here are a couple of photos of the new Velo Orange rack mounted on my Motobecane city bike. Click on the photos to enlarge them.

We're talking with a couple of new shops with larger production capacities about making these. I want to be able to fill orders in a timely manner, which wasn't always possible with decaleurs and rear racks.

The rack works well as is, but we'll make a few very minor changes to improve fit. I'd like it to sit about 9mm further forward to better clear someof the modern "fat" brakes.

The price for this rack will be about the same as the rear rack. If you're interested please reserve one by sending an e-mail. As usual there is no deposit or obligation required. The reservations help us judge demand so we make the right number in the first run.

I think it looks pretty good. How about you?

New Old Stock Treasures

We found a few treasures in a dusty warehouse.

The Fiamme stems are among the prettiest bike stems ever made in my humble opinion. One is going on my Ebisu and I'm tempted to keep them all for myself ;<) They are polished to a near mirror finish and accept standard 26mm road bars. $80.

Several customers have asked for more of the old style Silca pumps with the removable heads. Unfortunately there are no more in chrome, but we found a few silver pumps. We also have some in white, which are often spray painted to match the bike. ($26)

Finally we have a very small supply of TA Professional 3-Pin cranks. This was the old TA racing crank. It uses 116 bcd rings which are available in sizes from 36 to 68 tooth.

How do you like our new orange background?

We Have 18 Ounce Stainless Steel Water Bottles

I know several of you have been waiting for the classic size 18 oz. stainless steel water bottles. They just arrived and they fit perfectly in every cage I have. Again, they have a logo, but it can be removed with metal polish.

Here's the link.

A 1972 French Top End Racing Bike

Since we're all suffering from tour withdrawal, I thought I'd post a few photos of this bike, that an aspiring racer might have ridden in the early 1970's.

This bike is interesting for several reasons. It is the type of bike that evolved into the modern sports tourer, such as the RB-1, Rambouillet, Kogswell P, and numerous others. It was built by a company, DANGRE-STARNORD, that prided itself on using all French components, yet the brakes are Swiss. And this bike has three names: On the seat tube it says Starnord, on the down tube is the name of the famous Paris Sport shop; and on the head tube it sports a Victor Cycles of Paris logo, which was a house brand of Paris Sport and had nothing to do with Paris France.

Construction is all French sized Reynolds 531, which some aficionados claim rides better than the slightly different British sized tubes used in the rest of the world. As for workmanship, well, let's just assume it was built after a long wine soaked lunch.

The ride is pleasant enough, though the long chainstays and thin tubing make it a bit flexible for my weight. Steering is a little quicker than I prefer, but not bad. The Ideal 90 Rebour-treated saddle is almost as comfortable as my Brooks Pro. And the top-of-the-line Simplex SLJ derailleurs are smooth as silk. makes one wonder what all the fuss with index shifting is about.

The wheels in the photos are not original; those were sew-ups. There is plenty of clearance for large tires and fenders as well as eyelets on all dropouts. If you eased the head tube angle one degree, you'd have close approximation of a classic sports touring bike.

I bought this bike because I wanted to play around with the sort of bike I couldn't afford when I first became interested in bikes, and for the parts. It appears have been ridden no more that a couple of hundred miles. I plan to use the parts to build up a future project, perhaps the prototype Velo Orange frame. Anyone want a French racing frame?

A couple of folks have suggested that this bike should be preserved as is. My feeling is that the frame is poorly made and not historically important. The parts would be better used to restore a significant frame, like the stripped Singer racing frame I recently saw. Or they should go on a first class handmade frame.

More photos here.

GO FLOYD!!!!!

Velo Orange is not about racing, but GO FLOYD!!!!! I've been watching, or following the TdF since I was about 18, and I can't remember a more amazing stage than today's. If you haven't watched it yet, do so tonight. It's worth it.

David's Rubbish Bin Randonneuse

David, who often comments here, found a Peugeot PFN-10 frame made from Vitus 181 tubing in a dumpster. He added a Reynolds 531 fork from a Peugeot PX-10 and found he had a sweet riding French bike. Obviously he's lavished a fair bit of time and money on his project, and the results is a beautiful rando/commuter bike.

Of course I have to mention the Velo Orange rear rack, decaleur, mud flap, bell mount, and toe clip covers. But that custom front generator braze-on is a brilliant addition. And the Berthoud bags add a bit of class. The Mafac front rack and TA bottle and cage, as well as the Stronglight crank are also notable. If you study the photos you'll find a lot of little details that make this bike special; it was obviously set up by someone who knew what he was doing.

David, who is an ex-racer, prefers the race bike-like fit of this bike with its low bars and tall seat post.

Even though David has a very nice brand new sports-touring frame, he's wondering if he should build it up. He's not sure it would be much of an improvement over the Peugeot. He writes of the Peugeot, "...its ignoble provenance adds character."

More photos here. And if you want to see what what a PFN-10 looked like when new, here's a link (and look at the stem on the bike at the bottom of this link).

The J. P. Routens Seat Post, Most Unusual

This is a rather rare seat post made by the famous French firm of J.P. Routens. Jo Routens, like Herse and Singer, was one of the premier French constructeurs. The firm became JPR when Jean-Paul Routens (Jo's son) took over. JPR made this post, as well as some very nice tandems and frames in all price ranges.

The design of this post is also very unusual as it is a twin bolt post, but the adjustment is from the bottom! The JPR post was also used in the short lived and rare Huret Gruppo. Did you know Huret had a gruppo?

I found a few of these posts and will soon offer them in the Velo Orange store. Click to make the photos larger. By the way, that's Paul Sherwen, the TdF commentator, in the ad on the left.

The New Velo Orange Front Rack and Water Bottle

It fits bikes with cantis, sidepulls, centerpulls, or no brakes. It only weighs around 360 grams. The material is 1/4" 304 stainless steel tube. There are threaded bosses for lights on both sides and a proper fender mount. Plus, it's very very shiny. We'll post more photos later. What do you think?

On another subject, I've been looking for a nice modern the stainless steel water bottle for ages. Unlike plastic bottles there is no funky plastic taste from these, even the tops are non leaching. And the tops come in two styles, either a sports top or an old fashioned screw-in flat top. They hold 27 oz. and fit in a standard cage and will last a very long time. We'll even stock replacment tops. $14 in the store. The logo can be removed with metal polish. We'll also have the more traditional 18oz versions of these soon.

Did you know that reproductions of old metal French water bottles cost $160.00 in Japan, if you can get one.

Crank Update

We have ordered a small run of all silver Stronglight Impact cranksets in sizes from 165mm to 175mm. The price will be about $135. I don't have a delivery date yet. One of the best reasons to get these is that they will come with 34/48 Stronglight rings (which are 5spd to 10spd compatible) and are second only to TA rings in quality. Since this initial run is so small I would suggest that you reserve one if you're interested. Just send an e-mail saying you'd like one and what size, there is no deposit required or obligation. I just want to know if I should increase the size of the order.

Today's Herse

If you wanted to have a bike built and cost was not an issue, who would you ask to build it? I would consider an Alex Singer, or perhaps a Mariposa. One of Steve Hampsten's Tournesol would also be high on the list. But in the end I think I would call Peter Weigle.

I don't know enough about framebuilding to declare Peter the best builder around, and I wouldn't want to judge if I did. It's just that Weigle bikes mesh so well with my own view of what looks right and works well. And Peter is a great guy who spends a lot of time in the saddle testing his own bikes and trying out bikes built by the old constructeurs. He sent me these photos of one of his bikes a few days ago.

The photos were taken by Ken Toda and are of the bike that was awarded 'Best in Show" at this year's Le Cirque du Cyclisme. The rest of the photos are here. By the way, Peter doesn't have a web site; he doesn't need one.

What do you think? Who would build your dream bike?

Ding Ding... We Have Bells Again

The long awaited shipment of fine Japanese bells arrived today. So we are filling all existing orders plus any others you care to place. If you order your bell with a spacer mount, we will gladly, (and at no charge) install it on the spacer mount, just ask in the comments box on the order form.

And yes we have the aluminum bells too.

By the way, there is something very cool and rare in the store. If you're an old Campy fan you'll be interested.

Things that Work

After years of being the guy who never flats, my luck has run out. Or maybe it's moving to a more urban area where there is glass and stuff on the streets. My solution has been to start using Slime Lite tubes. These have a slimy goo inside that self seals punctures up to 3mm wide, so I hope to get far fewer flats.

I've never been a fan of regular Slime tubes; at 200+ grams they are just too heavy. But the "Lite" version is listed at 158gm in the 28-32mm size, but only weight 144gm on my digital scale. That's only about 30gm more than a regular tube. At $9.75 they are not cheap, but worth it for me. We do have them in the Velo Orange store.

We also have good quality regular tubes at $3 each, just so you can stock up when you order other stuff.

Another one of my favorite little items is the generic two legged bike stand. Most of us don't need a full blown repair stand; they take up to much room and are expensive. But this little stand hooks over the downtube, cradles the bottom bracket shell, and lifts the back wheel up. So you can spin the crank, make adjustments to your drivetrain, do an entire overhaul or build up a frame. When you're done it fits in the parts drawer. Okay, it may not be as convenient as a full size professional $200 repair stand, but it only costs $14.50 in the Velo Orange store and will last forever.

Finally, I've been using Delta Inox stainless steel water bottle cages for a few years now. They are very light, elegant (in a modern way), and don't mark-up water bottles. They come in a silver mat finish that goes well with most newer bikes. $14 in the store.

Do you have any favorite "things that work"?

Still More New Products

We've added a few more products to the Velo Orange store.

We now have Brooks saddles at some of the lowest prices around. Currently we stock the B17 saddles ($57) and Brooks Team Pros ($115) . We can get most other models in 48 hours and at very low prices, so please e-mail if there's a particular model you need.

I also found a stash of chrome Silca frame pumps, the old type with the screw on head. They are $32 each and there are only a few in each size and we can't re-order, so get em while you can. You'll need to e-mail to get these; there are not enough of them to put in the store.

We also carry Berthoud stainless steel fenders now ($50 per pair with all hardware). I'll add those to the store tomorrow.

For those of you who ride modern bikes, we stock 1-1/8" Stronglight headsets roller bearing headsets ($45). And we have the famous Stronglight Delta headsets, as well as the legendary A9s.

We'll have Delta stainless steel water bottle cages tomorrow.

The Japanese Bells have been delayed for yet another week. I am apoplectic about this, and apologetic. Why on earth would it take over two months to get 300 bike bells?

Also, we know a number of you have ordered TA track pedals. I'm sorry to say that there are no more of them in th US so far as I can tell. We have plenty of road pedals, but no more track models; sorry. TA pedals are one of those rare items you should buy when they are available.

What other products do you think Velo Orange should carry?

Velo Orange Saddle Bags are Here ($68)

This is our first piece of VO brand bike luggage. The Velo Orange saddle bag is made of thick canvas that matches the color of the classic old TA bag. It has a stiffener in back so it maintains it's shape and a separate pocket for your wallet. there are inner flaps that can be secured to keep the contents restrained on rough roads. The buckles are solid brass, not plated.

It's about the perfect size for a long day's ride with room for a tool kit and spare tube, a rain jacket, a wool cap, knee warmers, a small camera, a cell phone, and plenty of snacks. If your rain jacket gets wet you can secure it under the extra long top strap. The price is $68 in the Velo Orange store.

In the future we hope to make a smaller version, a matching handlebar bag, panniers, and a large seat bag.

Velo Retro

Where would you find a reproduction 1950 Simplex catalog or a t-shirt with a classic cycle-art poster on it? Only at Velo Retro; Velo Retro is an online business run by well known bike collector Chuck Schmidt.

In addition to selling catalog reproductions, reprinted rare cycling books, and snazzy shirts, Velo Retro hosts the useful Mavic and Campy timelines. And they have a comprehensive collection of bike related links.

Chuck also hosts The Velo Rendezvous events and monthly retro rides. Have a look at the photos of these events.

Impact Cranks

The selection of attractive compact cranks is very small indeed. The photo is of a Stronglight Impact crank. It is a, not well guarded, secret that the Impact is actually forged for Stronglight by Sugino.

The advantage of the Impact is that it comes with the superb Stronglight chainrings and is available in every size from 165mmto 175mm. Plus, being French, there is a certain "cool factor". It weighs a reasonable 630gm and uses a 110mm square-spindle bottom bracket. I've tested a set of these cranks on my bike for a month and am very impressed.

We've been thinking of asking Stronglight to assemble a run of these in silver with 48/34 rings. They would cost around $110. What do you think? Black rings or champagne rings? Are there other good alternatives?

Of course the long term goal is to make reproduction Rene Herse cranksets.