Here are a few images of built up Camargue frames. These two are being shipped off to Interbike.
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| This will be my daily rider |
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| I love the dropouts |
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| Crazy bars. |
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| Here is the 26" version set up for touring. The Pass hunter rack is not a good fit; Campeur or Constructeur racks are the way to go on these frames. |
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| Note the cable adjuster and proper fender mounts. |
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| Again, fender mounts and three bottle cages. Those 2.0" smooth Michelin tires are so comfy. |
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These look like the perfect all-rounder frames. Love both colors, love the three bottle mounts, love the tire clearance, love the rack (rear and front) mounts, love the bi-plane fork crown.
The only thing that would make it better for me would be a kickstand plate, but maybe I'm in the majority.
I'm loving the crazy bar build! From the side it looks like you could lay across the top and take a nap. From above, it looks like some sort of giant crab is perched on your bike! I can't wait to make one of those mine. :)
Ooh, I want one! Or several!
They will be the hit of the show.
But tell me, if the rack doesn't fit, why did you mount it?
This is it. I must have this frame. I hope you will have a nice near complete kit version to go with it. You could paint this thing neon polka dot and I would buy it. Biggest issue for me will be deciding what kind of hbar, bar tape and saddle color to build it with...;)
STOKED!
what is the price point?
Looks good, but I'd also like to see this with a kickstand plate.
Oops, that should have been minority, not majority.
That frame looks great! An issue with a some of the 'monstercross' or tour29er bikes i've seen - Surly Ogre and Origin8 - have front derailleur/tire clearance issues, and this frame looks by the set of the tire in there to have longer chainstays that will give better front derailleur clearance.
I am virtually drooling over how this bike's design.
In my opinion, it looks like a near golden ideal for monstercross all-roaders and has a potential to become THE benchmark frame for this type of frameset, like the Surly LHT did 10 years ago. Way to go, Chris and team, frame looks great!
Very nice to see big tires and a higher BB. I look forward to seeing some more builds in the future.
That Pass Hunter rack surely won't be shown at Interbike, will it?
Great looking builds. I know you said you won't have geo until it goes into production, but can you say what the BB drop and chainstay length is on the demo models? Also, are you planning to take them out to Rosaryville, Schaeffer Farms, or Maryland mtb hotspot and run them on a little singletrack?
I think I will have to order one, once they are available. Very useful design: my compliments VO!
Just my 2 cents: not a great shade of green ... and green is, in general, my favorite color: olive, forest, kelly ... I've don't think I've seen this particular shade: ugh! Definitely stands out.
The orange isn't bad, but may still have to budget for a repaint.
FWIW, another vote for kickstand plate.
Looks excellent. I like the green. I'd like a kickstand plate too. I use a similar bar set up (though not as elegant)with a swept back bar and bar ends to give a full variety from upright to tucked in. Delivery when?
What kind of internal gear hub are you using?
I want one! But I too would prefer it with a kickstand plate.
Will VO be making 700c 60 or 65mm 700alloy fenders to fit over 2.1" tires?
I love the Green.
Might be best to put the rear-derailleur chainstay housing stop closer towards the bottom bracket and a disc-brake style housing+ziptie/clip where you would normally put one. Would make the installation of a IGH wheel easier/housing run more graceful. For those running a derailleur they would just ziptie the housing down.
Also, +1 for a kickstand plate. Although, how high is the BB? Would a standard length kickstand be long enough with 2.1" or 2.3" tires installed?
I want to cast my vote for the orange color. If you only release the green version, please consider making a limited run of the orange so I can get one!
Where do I place my order?
Looks like VO has a hit!
We are working on wide 29er fenders for this frame.
We are still testing, so delivery is uncertain, but we're hoping for mid-winter.
The hub is an Alfine 8-speed.
Is buying components the week before Interbike anything like buying an iPhone the week before a keynote?
I'm in the middle of a build right now (hence why I'm in the market for components), but I probably would have chosen this frame if it was available when I started.
Nicely done, guys.
What is the spacing between the canti pivots? I'm wondering what is the widest rim you can fit in there. 28mm? 32mm? Fat tires need fat rims. What rim width would you recommend for use with your Grand Cru cantilevers?
What are those crazy bars?
Hell Yeah, this bike is AWESOME. My $.02. Fix that orange color and go with it. You guys are named Velo Orange yet you currently have no orange bikes. It could also be considered a modern B-Stone XO-1, nit in the literal sense, but more in the functional sense. Orange is the way to go. BTW, I must have this, and that green would be hard to do.......although I probably still would.
Darn you guys, now you have three frames I would be just fine with. I try to be picky but you keep addressing my every thought. I think this Camargue will be the one I'm the most-fine with. Good work! Winter project ahead!
The only thing bad about this frame is that it will make my Bianchi Volpe obsolete and redundant. C'est la vie.
I'm a little late to the comments on this frame, but I would like to share my thoughts.
When you released the Campeur, I gave much thought to using the frame to replace my Cross Check. I liked the touring focus of the frame and the ability to maybe do some gravel grinding. I also liked the inclusion of the kickstand plate because I never liked that the only way to use a kickstand on my Surly was to pinch the chainstays (an inelegant solution, IMO). The one thing that kept me from pulling the trigger on a Campeur was the lack of big tire support. My Cross Check can support 45c tires with fenders, or 29x2.0 tires without, although using 29er tires required some compromises.
I was very happy to see the teaser post for this frame because that meant I could finally pull the trigger on an inexpensive big wheel touring frame that could do gravel grinding and trail riding and have the option of the kickstand. Well, my assumptions were incorrect, no kickstand plate. I don't know if the BB height plus the 29er tires make a kickstand a virtual impossibility, but if not, count me in as a kickstand plate proponent for the production run of this frame.
Hi Chris,
Great looking frame - very interested!!! I would think that a kickstand plate will be essential given its likely range of uses. I'd also very much like to see a pump peg/hook near the top of the left seat stay - don't think anyone has mentioned this very handy feature yet. I might also suggest that you look into a version of that bi-plane crown with rack eyelets, although having just built one for a new-style LHT I'm not entirely sold on the idea due to brake clearance and aesthetic issues. Hopefully it's a low trail fork of course... Great frame - keep at it please.
Sam.
New Plan for 2014!
Kickstand plate is requisite...
There won't be a kickstand plate on this bike, sorry. Kickstands don't work well off-pavement and that is the primary use for this frame.
The green bike is pretty much what the frame will look like, save for, possibly, some very minor geometry adjustments.
Good! Kickstands are for toy bikes.
I absolutely disagree about kickstands being only for toy bikes. There have been several times where I've had no place to lean my bike when I was carrying a load.
I believe that it's important to at least offer the kickstand option to the customers who'd use the bike for grocery getting between their off-road adventures.
This looks really great. Any chance it'll have a 73* HTA, light tubing and come in big sizes?
Very nice. Any chance of it getting a 73* HTA, light tubing and being built in larger sizes (say 60-62cm).
Kickstands are for town bikes. This is an off-road tourer. Thanks for not putting a kickstand plate on it. Do a disc version and I'm in. It could use a front rack that is halfway between the Passhunter and the Porteur in size too. Frame bags and saddle bags are rad but handlebar rolls leave a bit to be desired. Plus, you can't carry a case of beer in a handlebar roll!
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