The next generation Polyvalents and Pass Hunters are in production! We have had so much interest in them, we decided to open up a pre-order so folks can get their frame spoken for.
So, without further ado, let's jump in!
The Polyvalent is our longest running and most versatile frameset. If you wanted something that you could use for your commute, a full RUSA randonneuring series, AND go on an extended tour, the Polyvalent is your best choice.
This Low Kicker variant features a low-slung top tube and we're excited to offer this configuration. Fully loaded tourists will find it significantly easier to mount and dismount. Riders with limited flexibility will be able to ride a seriously capable and fun bike without compromising performance. Lastly, riders down to 5' will be able to have a very comfortable position with both drop and flat bars.
Here are the specifications of the frameset:
Here are the specifications of the frameset:
- Frameset material: 4130 double butted chromoly steel, with "Low Kicker" top tube for easy on and off
- Fork: 1 1/8" threadless, 4130 double-butted chromoly steel with elegant fork bend
- Wheel Size: 650B or 26"
- Tire Clearance: 650B x 47mm, 26 x 2.3" (either with fenders)
- Rear Spacing: 12x142mm thru-axle
- Front Spacing: 12x100mm thru-axle
- BB: English threaded 68mm
- Brakes: IS mount disc, 160mm
- Seatpost size: 27.2mm
- Front Derailleur Size: 28.6mm
- Water bottle mounts: Triple mount on top of downtube and one set on underside of downtube
- Fender bosses: seat stay bridge, chainstay bridge, under fork crown
- Rear Dropouts: Vertical with aluminium alloy replaceable hanger
- Frame Eyelets: Double eyelets on rear dropouts for racks and fenders, internal eyelets on seat stays
- Fork Eyelets: Double eyelets on fork dropouts for racks and fenders, triple thru-bosses on the blades for lowrider racks or cargo cages, hourglass braze-on for Randonneur or Campeur Racks
- Rear Brake Routing: Easy internal routing for rear brake cable housing/hydraulic tubing
- Paint: Metallic Sage - Final production run with have metallic VeloORANGE logo
And the geometry!
The Pass Hunter is the speediest of our bikes and is designed for light-packing adventures over mountain passes, Sport Touring, and even the weekend club ride!
While this may look like a traditional randonneur, don't let that elegant Cool Blue and nostalgic 80's Burgundy paint and metallic logos fool you. This frameset is packed with modern design and features.
The wishbone rear triangle is a Velo Orange custom arrangement. By simplifying the connection points, it makes the rear end light and springy for optimal power transfer.
The main triangle uses an oversized 35.0mm downtube and a standard 28.6 top tube. It makes the bike planted, comfortable, and with flex in all the right places.
Lastly, the front end. The headtube is tapered to allow the use of aftermarket carbon forks that are available such as Rodeo Labs and Whisky, along with many others that fit into the "utili-fork" genre.
Here are all the frame highlights and details!
The main triangle uses an oversized 35.0mm downtube and a standard 28.6 top tube. It makes the bike planted, comfortable, and with flex in all the right places.
Lastly, the front end. The headtube is tapered to allow the use of aftermarket carbon forks that are available such as Rodeo Labs and Whisky, along with many others that fit into the "utili-fork" genre.
Here are all the frame highlights and details!
- Frameset material: 4130 double butted chromoly steel
- Fork: 1 1/8" -> 1 1/2" tapered threadless, 4130 double-butted chromoly steel
- Wheel Size: 650b or 700c
- Tire Clearance: 650Bx42mm and 700x32mm w/ fenders, 650bx48 and 700x35mm without fenders.
- Rear Spacing: 12x142mm thru-axle
- Front Spacing: 12x100mm thru-axle
- BB: English threaded 68mm
- Brakes: Flat Mount disc, 140mm rotor compatible
- Seatpost size: 27.2mm, non-integrated seat collar (not included)
- Front Derailleur Size: 28.6mm
- Water bottle mounts: Double on top of downtube, under downtube, and on seattube
- Fender bosses: seat stay bridge, chainstay bridge, under fork crown
- Rear Dropouts: Vertical with aluminium alloy replaceable hanger
- Frame Eyelets: Single eyelets on rear dropouts for fenders, internal eyelets on seat stays
- Fork Eyelets: Double eyelets on fork dropouts for racks and fenders, triple thru-bosses on the blades for cargo cages, hourglass braze-on for Randonneur Rack
- Rear Brake Routing: Easy internal routing for rear brake cable housing/hydraulic tubing
- Paint: Cool Blue or Burgundy Red with metallic VeloORANGE logo
and the geometry:
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17 comments:
When will the Diamond frame come for us frame bag lovers?
Not sure exactly, as they as currently going through testing and prototyping. Early 2021 is my best guess.
-Igor
They look great! Will you publish the A-C fork length specs for both the low kicker and pass hunter, for the alt-fork curious?
Can you clarify what the standover height refers to with the Polyvalents? Measure from the ground at the lowest point of the top tube, I guess? Thanks!
@arvi,
I'll confirm those figures and get them on the site.
@Hobbes vs Boyle,
That's right. From the ground to where the rider would stand to get off the bike.
-Igor
These look awesome. Curious if the Pass Hunter can be ordered w/o the fork? Also curious what carbon forks actually fit the measurements (393 axle to crown / 51 rake). The Whisky RD+ 9 is 383mm with a 51mm rake, and the Rodeo is 396mm with a 45m rake. The Allygn Mud Fork is closest I've found just digging around (395, 55 rake). Would be cool to know what's a dead-fit, or at least have a way of calculating trail and reach for different forks.
Hey Andres,
We will only be offering the Pass Hunter as a frame set with the steel fork. We've updated the PH page with the a-c measurements of 393mm w/ 51mm offset.
-Igor
I wonder if it's possible to squeeze a panaracer Gravel king sk 650bx2.00 in the rear of the passhunter
Hi. Can you tell me if the Low Kicker will accommodate a front wheel dynamo? SON Nabendynamo sell a model that takes a 12mm thru axle (the SON 28 12 disc 6 bolt). Thanks
These are some great updates to the line up. Good work!
Any options or thoughts on an internal hub for the polyvalent? I assume a Rohloff with a chain tensioner shouln't be an issue. How about an Alfine?
Really love this one, but will there be a soulution may also for a rear rack?
´Cause you never know whats comming up.
To have a real can do it all Bike.
@Tati,
No, a 650bx48 is the biggest tire the Pass Hunter can take. The Polyvlalent would be a better candidate for that tire size.
@Tim,
Yes, the Polyvalent can accept a 12mm dynamo hub. For routing you can use either zip ties or r-clips on the inside of the fork blade.
@Daniel,
As far as Rohloff compatibility, that is a question for them. We haven't tested that hub. For internal gearing, you would want to use an appropriate 12mmx142mm thru-axle compatible hub and a chain tensioner.
@Unknown,
I'm assuming you're talking about the Pass Hunter as the Polyvalent has rack mounts at the dropouts and seatstays. The rear triangle of the PH was not designed to take anything load bearing beside something like the Nitto R-10 or similar that mounts to the seatstays and seatpost. We suggest using a rear saddle bag.
-Igor
Will someone create a photoshop picture of the Low Kicker with that build on the Red Passhunter shown?
Hi VO,
I am coming from a very heavy touring bike and I’m looking for something lighter and faster that I can take bike camping and off road riding.
I want to ask if the Pass Hunter is a good choice for long trips with the following bag setup: 5 liter drybags on the fork and a big handlebar roll at the front, a full-frame bag, and a 12 liter saddlebag.
I assume the bike feels great on gravel when unloaded, but can it take some rougher roads while loaded with the aforementioned bag setup or would I be pushing the bike beyond its intended limits that way?
Also, I was wondering if the geometry is more race or endurance oriented?
Thanks! Greets from Belgium.
@ Mattis
The Pass Hunter would be great with a set up like that. We have the mounts on the forks for exactly the purpose you are intending.
I'd probably go with wider 650b tires for more comfort, but sounds like you have a great plan for your Pass Hunter- Scott
How much for one of these built up as pictured (red bike) with hydro brakes?
@ RobRob- probably around $3500. It depends exactly on what parts you want as some of the Campy stuff Igor used is no longer in production/would not work with Hydro brakes, but $3500 would be in the ball park.- Scott
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