They won't last long. So if you need one order soon. These are the USA-made stainless steel version. The small shop that makes these can't keep up with demand, which is why we usually sell out in a week.
Cobalt bits are the way to go. Resist the lure of cheaper, softer bits, the aggravation is not worth it.
Weight limit will be determined by how much degradation of the handling you are prepared to tolerate. I wouldn't have wanted to carry much more than 20kg with my old forks. I've recently fitted some lower trail ones which should in theory allow more weight but I haven't tested this yet.
Here is a tip for drilling the holes: Take a center punch and make a good dimple to start. Put a small drop of oil in the dimple and drill at a slow speed. Voila.
Clamp the rack down to a bench with a wood block under the tange, this should be easy to do by hand. Better yet, locate a drill press.
Yes, the Taiwan racks are in the works and the rear racks should arrive soon. But the porteur model has been delayed a few weeks because we are rethinking the exact placement of the pre-drilled holes in the tangs; we got a sample and tried it on a bunch of bikes and then decided to add a third hole.
A canti-version might be possible one day, but there is a fair bit of tooling cost, plus a very large minimum order for each model. So it would be next year at the earliest.
I disagree with the predrilled holes. Having extra holes in the thing, that you aren't using, isn't something that would pass muster with Alex Singer or Rene Herse in any way, shape or form. Besides, it depends if you have a 650b or 700c rig, how big the tires are, whether you're using the axle or eyelets to mount it, yadda yadda.
I think it would be better to just include a suitable drill bit. I didn't find it difficult -- it did ruin the bit but that was as I'd expected.
nah it should be "open source," like a linux product. i mean chris already puts so many of his potential products up here for us all to vote on, so it's basically user-driven already. only fair that it would be user-tested as well ...
which, for the record, is cheapest done with pbr. so there!
do we really need to nit pick other people's beer choice? there's nothing at all wrong about buying cheap beer.
I, for one, own a large amount of expensive bike gear but cannot, on a weekly basis, afford to purchase the beer I would prefer to purchase. Or rather, I could, but I would have fewer nice bike things. I have to save up to buy bike things.
Thus, sixers of Rainier tallboys. And the occasional 22oz. bottle of Eel River IPA.
My porteur style rack (CETMA brand) has carried a 24 bottle pack of Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale twelve miles across Seattle on the fork of my 1982 Bianchi Limited road bike. Easy? No. Fun? Kinda.
Well, if Chris, Tom or anyone else tests the Porteur racks "to destruction" for goodness sake use stuff in metal cans (or good old fashioned sandbags) not glass-bottled beer, wine, soft drinks or vegetable juices.
Newspapers might make a good test medium, but it'd have to be the "Sunday" paper for the heavy glossy paper advertising inserts, and I don't have a clue as to how long the bungie cords, ropes or other securing media would be.
I'm willing to make the sacrifice. Send me a free test Porteur rack and I'll determine the racks' weight limit. And since I'm in a good mood today, I'll even "test it to destruction" But seriously, don't wait too late, or I may change my mind!
What is the weight limit for this rack, pray tell.
ReplyDeleteWeight limit? I'd guess that the eyelets on your fork would break before the rack does. But we have not tested them to destruction.
ReplyDeleteAre these the new "ready-to-mount" or the "cut-and-drill"
ReplyDeleteThese racks are undrilled. Buy 2 bits. Stainless is much harder to cut and drill than cromoly.
ReplyDeleteIt should easily hold 2 cases of PBR.
Sorry, but if you're buying a $190 rack you should not be drinking PBR, regardless of how hip you are.
ReplyDeleteCobalt bits are the way to go. Resist the lure of cheaper, softer bits, the aggravation is not worth it.
ReplyDeleteWeight limit will be determined by how much degradation of the handling you are prepared to tolerate. I wouldn't have wanted to carry much more than 20kg with my old forks. I've recently fitted some lower trail ones which should in theory allow more weight but I haven't tested this yet.
sorry, but them pbr's ain't bad. they's even got a little bit o' booze in 'em.
ReplyDeletePBR should be poured back into the cheval!
ReplyDeleteYippee! Bought.
ReplyDeleteHere is a tip for drilling the holes: Take a center punch and make a good dimple to start. Put a small drop of oil in the dimple and drill at a slow speed. Voila.
ReplyDeleteClamp the rack down to a bench with a wood block under the tange, this should be easy to do by hand. Better yet, locate a drill press.
Rack-up the hits of Maryland:
ReplyDelete1. The Wire
2. The seafood
3. Jolida Audio gear
4. Velo Orange
also, very desirable rack.
ReplyDeleteAs long as it holds the required 15kg of newspapers for the big race.
ReplyDeleteHooray VO, keep up the good work.
I've strapped a 24 pack of pbr to the constructeur in a desperate situation so the porteur can certainly handle it.
ReplyDeleteIt would be cool if there were a version of this rack that mounted canti studs like the Nitto Campee.
ReplyDeleteIt wold be cool if ther were a version of this rack that would mount on canti studs like the Nitto Campee.
ReplyDeleteAre you still planning on getting these made by the factory in Taiwan soon?
ReplyDeleteYes, the Taiwan racks are in the works and the rear racks should arrive soon. But the porteur model has been delayed a few weeks because we are rethinking the exact placement of the pre-drilled holes in the tangs; we got a sample and tried it on a bunch of bikes and then decided to add a third hole.
ReplyDeleteA canti-version might be possible one day, but there is a fair bit of tooling cost, plus a very large minimum order for each model. So it would be next year at the earliest.
1.Stone Ruination
ReplyDelete2.Dale's PA if you need a can.
It might be a good idea to start testing these racks, decaleurs etc. to failure.
ReplyDeleteI disagree with the predrilled holes. Having extra holes in the thing, that you aren't using, isn't something that would pass muster with Alex Singer or Rene Herse in any way, shape or form. Besides, it depends if you have a 650b or 700c rig, how big the tires are, whether you're using the axle or eyelets to mount it, yadda yadda.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be better to just include a suitable drill bit. I didn't find it difficult -- it did ruin the bit but that was as I'd expected.
nah it should be "open source," like a linux product. i mean chris already puts so many of his potential products up here for us all to vote on, so it's basically user-driven already. only fair that it would be user-tested as well ...
ReplyDeletewhich, for the record, is cheapest done with pbr. so there!
do we really need to nit pick other people's beer choice? there's nothing at all wrong about buying cheap beer.
ReplyDeleteI, for one, own a large amount of expensive bike gear but cannot, on a weekly basis, afford to purchase the beer I would prefer to purchase. Or rather, I could, but I would have fewer nice bike things. I have to save up to buy bike things.
Thus, sixers of Rainier tallboys. And the occasional 22oz. bottle of Eel River IPA.
My porteur style rack (CETMA brand) has carried a 24 bottle pack of Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale twelve miles across Seattle on the fork of my 1982 Bianchi Limited road bike. Easy? No. Fun? Kinda.
Well, if Chris, Tom or anyone else tests the Porteur racks "to destruction" for goodness sake use stuff in metal cans (or good old fashioned sandbags) not glass-bottled beer, wine, soft drinks or vegetable juices.
ReplyDeleteNewspapers might make a good test medium, but it'd have to be the "Sunday" paper for the heavy glossy paper advertising inserts, and I don't have a clue as to how long the bungie cords, ropes or other securing media would be.
Would make a great newspaper photo stunt, though!
Greetings,
ReplyDeleteI'm willing to make the sacrifice. Send me a free test Porteur rack and I'll determine the racks' weight limit. And since I'm in a good mood today, I'll even "test it to destruction"
But seriously, don't wait too late, or I may change my mind!
Don't you people realize that testing products to destruction, done correctly, will destroy bicycles in the process?
ReplyDeleteThis guy doesn't carry he is beer in Porteur rack.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLl5y9RZI7c&feature=PlayList&p=2798B8E972FBF073&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=58
The best beer is the cold kind.
A friend of mine used to say "Life is to long to drink expensive beer." He changed his mind after cracking open a can of Hamm's Ultra Lite.
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