tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post4237003618608395658..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Handlebar Basics, Part 2Velo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13543317498616213092008-02-25T09:41:00.000-05:002008-02-25T09:41:00.000-05:00as for can beer, dale's is good, but you should tr...as for can beer, dale's is good, but you should try sly fox. it's excellent. and should you try to put 26.0 bars in your older cinelli stem, shims will do that too, proudly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-72214959312208174272008-02-23T22:54:00.000-05:002008-02-23T22:54:00.000-05:00for me, cycling is not a sport. i ride 200 miles/w...for me, cycling is not a sport. i ride 200 miles/week, as general transport. i love my bikes, ('61 olmo, riv bleriot, miyata 610, miyata 912, diamondback apex mtb.<BR/>tried wide bars, ended up back with 42's, same as my suit size. the technomic is good for me, bar height 1-2 cm below saddle height. sticking with classic dimensions might be wise. by classic i mean 1950's-60's long distance road racing stuff.<BR/>year round oregon rider!john k novackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09516750053415355527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-847843205339370632008-02-22T20:06:00.000-05:002008-02-22T20:06:00.000-05:00Thanks Chris ... I do have a Nitto Noodle bar on m...Thanks Chris ... I do have a Nitto Noodle bar on my classic Motobecane Grand Record however I haven't shellacked it . I just finished the top off with some matching tape and it looks pretty good. I've been wrapping drop bars with cloth tape now for about 34 years and if I take my time I'm pretty happy with the results. Normally I have no problems using just two rolls of Tressostar on the drops.<BR/><BR/>My most recent wrapping was using the Brooks perforated leather on some Nitto mustache bars. In the end I'm very happy with both the expensive Brooks leather tape and the final result. However I did run into a problem at first. <BR/><BR/>I originally had some really cool NOS CLB levers with the adjusting screws and of course the very nice hoods that comes on quality NOS levers. It seems that the leather created too much thickness at the area of the lever body that there wasn't enough bolt to attached the tightening nuts. However I luckily had some unused Campy Record levers which worked fine. And even though most would consider me part of the lower income group of bicycle aficionados I truly feel the Brooks leather tape was a investment that I will enjoy for many years to come. <BR/><BR/>On a single speed bike I have the Nitto Albatross bars (flipped of course) with the Soma reverse brake levers. So I taped them with cloth tape. The first taping did not get the feel thick enough. So I taped them again. Now I think they need a third taping and this will be finished with shellac to preserve the color. I'm even thinking about finishing them with tat twine. <BR/><BR/>Now if I could go back to the 1970's I could really impress those Italianos who often put down my bicycle finish handiwork. <BR/><BR/>For some reason finishing the bars properly is the most interesting and confusing part of bicycle handiwork. However nicely taped bars even on a older bike is sign of class that few of the stretched-out spandex Lycra crowd rarely appreciates. <BR/>PhillipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16517222982751049982008-02-22T15:56:00.000-05:002008-02-22T15:56:00.000-05:00I wrap my drop bars in two parts for each side, st...I wrap my drop bars in two parts for each side, starting at the ends and at the sleeve and working toward the levers. All the taping occurs under the brake hoods for a nice, clean look. NO exposed tape or twine! I can wrap a 48cm Noodle with two rolls of cloth tape (Viva or Tressostar) as long as I don't overlap too much. Personally, I don't like the look or feel of shellack, but it does make things last longer.<BR/>Another thing...<BR/>Does Nitto make the Noodle bar in a 25.4? Most of the cool looking stems I come across are 25.4 rather than 26.<BR/><BR/>tysAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-40566939965318912752008-02-22T14:37:00.000-05:002008-02-22T14:37:00.000-05:00I use three rolls of tape on most bars. I wrote a ...I use three rolls of tape on most bars. I wrote a post last year about the "Alex Singer" method of taping bars that describes how I do it.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62762839895080298722008-02-22T14:11:00.000-05:002008-02-22T14:11:00.000-05:00Hi Chris. How many rolls of cloth did it take to c...Hi Chris. How many rolls of cloth did it take to cover the Nitto Noodle bar? I have a the Belleri randonneur and I can't seem to cover the whole bar with 2 rolls.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73423263409176261862008-02-22T11:11:00.000-05:002008-02-22T11:11:00.000-05:00Why is that the best way to wrap bars if they are ...Why is that the best way to wrap bars if they are going to be shellacked? Can you explain what difference it makes?Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07606360749976387700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-43391535080995647512008-02-22T09:30:00.000-05:002008-02-22T09:30:00.000-05:00Schorsch, those are indeed noodles.Phillip, that i...Schorsch, those are indeed noodles.<BR/><BR/>Phillip, that is the best way to wrap bars when they will be shellaced, as the bars in the photo eventually were.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88621298597831966622008-02-22T09:14:00.000-05:002008-02-22T09:14:00.000-05:00I think we should use Babylonian hemp.I think we should use Babylonian hemp.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22382253853523162482008-02-21T23:48:00.000-05:002008-02-21T23:48:00.000-05:00Should we use american or metric cans?Should we use american or metric cans?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02226079173152049932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-3167726278452894552008-02-21T22:46:00.000-05:002008-02-21T22:46:00.000-05:00My favorite shim stock comes from the Pabst brewer...My favorite shim stock comes from the Pabst brewery.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64297577424458175802008-02-21T22:39:00.000-05:002008-02-21T22:39:00.000-05:00dale's pale ale is ok, and definately one of the b...dale's pale ale is ok, and definately one of the best of the canned beers... (i cant imagine rating it as america's best beer!!) but there are tons of beers that taste worlds apart without even traveling abroad.. weyerbacher/dogfis head/stouds etc..Yann G.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13946197159361678841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-23364154767688023462008-02-21T20:16:00.000-05:002008-02-21T20:16:00.000-05:0031.8? I know it's not really within the VO realm, ...31.8? I know it's not really within the VO realm, but I've yet to find a quill-style stem that fits a 31.8mm bar. Closest I could get was to buy a threadless adjustable-angle stem, and then a quill style adjustable-angle stem from the same nmanufacturer, and combine the parts. Never actually did it, just researched for a friend.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-29642588160849656022008-02-21T18:13:00.000-05:002008-02-21T18:13:00.000-05:00For calipers, I've found the General brand at Home...For calipers, I've found the General brand at Home Despot (uh, Depot) works well. Enough that my dial calipers (which were old, cheap and worn out) ended up in a landfill someplace.<BR/><BR/>However, in the area of religion (beer), it is acceptable to drink canned beer if it is (a) Surly, which needs to transfer to a glass recepticle for proper consumption; or (b) one of the numerous draught cans from across the pond. See (a) for proper consumption.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63370496210124078282008-02-21T16:40:00.000-05:002008-02-21T16:40:00.000-05:00"BTW, obtaining shim stock is the only acceptable ..."BTW, obtaining shim stock is the only acceptable reason to drink beer from cans and I use lots of shims."<BR/><BR/>I used to be in this camp until a friend turned me on to Dale's Pale Ale - which is can-only. The NY Times rated this beer as the best American beer so I'm not alone in now claiming it as my favorite. If you need further evidence of why canned beer can be exceptional, read about it at length on the Oskar Blues site - brewer of Dale's.<BR/>nv (who knows more about beer than handlebars, but does know that he prefers Promenade bars over most anything else.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6236097281886800342008-02-21T16:21:00.000-05:002008-02-21T16:21:00.000-05:00Ok ... now for the serious and very contentious ...Ok ... now for the serious and very contentious stuff ... it seems the photo of the the beautifully wrapped classic handlebars in the photo are wrapped starting at the area near the stem. Now I was always instructed by the very serious Italiano cyclists from the 1970's to wrap may bars starting on the outside of the drop. In fact I was sent home from rides if it appeared my cloth Tressotar tape was wound otherwise. It was one strike against me for not having the latest Cinelli bars. Another strike for not having the nicest Cinelli stem. And well the tape winding procedure was as they say 3 strikes and you're out of here.<BR/><BR/>I of course had 3T at the time and felt the need to wind differently. I see you concur. However I must say I now wind from the outside in because of this horrible experience with the Italiano riders of the day.<BR/>PhillipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1428448262090748982008-02-21T15:48:00.000-05:002008-02-21T15:48:00.000-05:00What handlebars are those, noodles? I like the sl...What handlebars are those, noodles? I like the slight slope on the flats.<BR/><BR/>Re: canned beer: It is also acceptable to drink canned beer when doing manual labor on the weekend. Canned beer is also almost indistinguishable from bottled when poured into a glass.Schorschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10086968194057010381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65349614295163058662008-02-21T15:42:00.000-05:002008-02-21T15:42:00.000-05:00Everyone should learn the Vernier scale.Everyone should learn the Vernier scale.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com