tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post99605983789404635..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Prototype PhotosVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20947450481999553092007-10-29T13:20:00.000-04:002007-10-29T13:20:00.000-04:00The racks will arrive in December.The racks will arrive in December.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25658562560622744362007-10-26T17:48:00.000-04:002007-10-26T17:48:00.000-04:00when will these racks be available?when will these racks be available?lynnefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05150859903856738614noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-46756279308218298522007-10-24T00:32:00.000-04:002007-10-24T00:32:00.000-04:00The brakes look great. Fill the need Tektro has le...The brakes look great. Fill the need Tektro has left and offer a nutted version... please!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48025649809851391812007-10-11T05:45:00.000-04:002007-10-11T05:45:00.000-04:00Chris--Great work. Ever consider designing some n...Chris--<BR/><BR/>Great work. Ever consider designing some new non-aero brake levers with large, comfy hoods like the cane creek scr-5 levers? The drawback of the older levers is usually the uncomfortable hoods. The drawback of new, aero levers is usually the annoying cable under the bar tape. Thoughts?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84431850132655590562007-10-06T14:52:00.000-04:002007-10-06T14:52:00.000-04:00Regarding the brakes:You might wish to consider a ...Regarding the brakes:<BR/><BR/>You might wish to consider a version that can be used for frames that can only be through-bolted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25972526373960247422007-10-06T12:40:00.000-04:002007-10-06T12:40:00.000-04:00Another excellent possibility for a product: a sea...Another excellent possibility for a product: a seatpost binder bolt cable hanger for centre-pull and canti brakes similar to those beautiful ones you always see on the Toei bikes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63757324629166681572007-10-06T03:13:00.000-04:002007-10-06T03:13:00.000-04:00Chris,Change of topic. Has anyone made a longer ca...Chris,<BR/><BR/>Change of topic. Has anyone made a longer cable hanger for the rear canti brake that hangs from the seatpost binder bolt?<BR/><BR/>The stock ones I have are too short, and I can't find longer ones anywhere.<BR/><BR/>AlfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-32807621108706045232007-10-05T22:28:00.000-04:002007-10-05T22:28:00.000-04:00The integrated decaleur is somewhat similar to one...The integrated decaleur is somewhat similar to one shown shown on page 141 of the classic "Data Book" of cycling components. The big differences are that the integrated rack/decaleur in the Data Book is attached to the stem at the top, has the two vertical tubes attached with the U-piece and has the decaleur tubes welded to the sides of the vertical rack members.<BR/><BR/>A design like the Data Book's would give the integrated rack/decaleur better lateral stability. I'm concerned that the V-O version will see significant stress at the joint with the horizontal member of the rack.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-29820194503751974662007-10-05T22:03:00.000-04:002007-10-05T22:03:00.000-04:00I have the headset spacer decaleur. It is not aff...I have the headset spacer decaleur. It is not affected by handlebar height, and it is surely structurally stiffer than the integrated decaleur because the head tube is much greater diameter than the integrated decaleur's two vertical tubes. With a tall bag and a lot of weight, it is conceivable that the bag would sway. <BR/><BR/>I use a bungee to hold the bag pins down in the decaleur. When I forget to slip the bungee over, the bag occasionally pops off. This is potentially dangerous. A snap in place lock mechanism would be nice. <BR/><BR/>I agree that a centerpull brake priced between Diacompe and Paul's and shorter in reach than the ultra-long Diacompes would be a better addition to range of products currently on the market than would another long-reach sidepull like the Tektros. I'm going out on a limb here, but I've got to say it: the Paul brakes are really ugly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6142221274311774722007-10-05T12:20:00.000-04:002007-10-05T12:20:00.000-04:00The rack with integrated decaleur looks great. On...The rack with integrated decaleur looks great. Only problem is my frame's being built next month so I won't wait for your new rack. Will the frame mounts be similarly dimensioned so the decaleur and non-dec front racks are interchangeable?<BR/><BR/>As for the brake, my knee jerk reaction is that the "breaching whale" profile of the front caliper arm is a no-go aesthetically. Count my vote for an elegant centerpull instead. There's a big price gap between Dia Compe and Paul.<BR/><BR/>Other than Paul, what centerpulls do you folks generally prefer for your 700c randonneurs?nordic_68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16681928489719451333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-23809576476660349702007-10-04T21:26:00.000-04:002007-10-04T21:26:00.000-04:00why not an updated version of the old MAFAC centre...why not an updated version of the old MAFAC centre-pulls? The Paul ones look alright, but neither those nor the Tektro time trial things have the elegance of the original designs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2693714161610472362007-10-04T19:59:00.000-04:002007-10-04T19:59:00.000-04:00Red, The new decaleurs are a lot lighter than the ...Red, The new decaleurs are a lot lighter than the originals. Ever production run has been an improvement. All that's left is to fill them with helium.<BR/><BR/>James, We may soon have something better than a regular old basket. A secret prototype is being made at the hush hush VO skunk-works.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-26987315046635267132007-10-04T18:52:00.000-04:002007-10-04T18:52:00.000-04:00I'm not sure that "generally slight design" is a g...I'm not sure that "generally slight design" is a good description of the small front racks from VO or Nitto. More than a few people use these front racks and even the Mark's rack to support wald baskets with loads far heavier than anyone should be carrying in a handlebar bag and very often on poor urban roads. <BR/><BR/> While I'm on the subject what this world needs is a larger nitto front rack that would be a better support for the "medium" Wald basket. If such a front rack (call it a mini porteur) were available (along with an enlarged bungee tarp) you'd have a pretty simple and weight efficient solution. A bit simpler and less expensive than say buying a fancy front rack and a custom made porteur bag (which would have to be removed whenever the bike is parked). Baskets are generally more usefull than flat racks even though they lack the snob value of the classic porteur rack. An Idea for the VO city bike perhaps?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42101221960880493342007-10-04T15:34:00.000-04:002007-10-04T15:34:00.000-04:00Where's the new, non-integrated, lighter weight de...Where's the new, non-integrated, lighter weight decaleur project at?<BR/><BR/>I like your integrated rack design, yet already own the Nitto M12.<BR/><BR/>JohnBig Head Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13826851340102051183noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47758603294702907912007-10-04T08:32:00.000-04:002007-10-04T08:32:00.000-04:00X01, You've got it reversed, the decaleur keeps th...X01, You've got it reversed, the decaleur keeps the bag from falling off. The bag's weight should be on the rack. The problem with the modern plastic handlebar attachments it that they put all the weight up high on the handlebar which id detrimental to a bike's handling.<BR/><BR/>Glenn, Drill two more holes in the bar if you need them, simple.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-71661098468785461222007-10-04T00:21:00.000-04:002007-10-04T00:21:00.000-04:00I'm not sure this is really a decaluer. To be one,...I'm not sure this is really a decaluer. To be one, it needs to attach to somewhere on the bike, such as the stem or headset. Those little front racks are not meant to support all the weight and sway of the h'bar bag. They are a support, an anti-sway device. The decaleur, mounted to the stem or the headset, is really doing 90% of the work. If I'm not mistaken your intended design puts all the weight and torque on the little rack and those three points of attachment, all beneath the bag, and the the generally "slight" design of the rack means it won't be up to the job. Or maybe I'm missing something about your design that isn't so far obvious. I love your products and use several of them, so this is offered in good faith.Chris Kostmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05056622357667732064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17386158206367541442007-10-03T23:44:00.000-04:002007-10-03T23:44:00.000-04:00I like the brake, silver satin would be my choice ...I like the brake, silver satin would be my choice for color. The rack looks good, it looks like I could use it with sidepull brakes?Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18254549814559852579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-79688335201288306462007-10-03T21:12:00.000-04:002007-10-03T21:12:00.000-04:00Chris,What are the dimension of the VO front rack ...Chris,<BR/>What are the dimension of the VO front rack platform? Do these dimensions vary from model to model (US made, Japan made, Decaleur, etc.)? <BR/>I've poked around the blog and store and see no dimensions listed.<BR/>Thanks,<BR/>nvAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89613045828563730752007-10-03T13:14:00.000-04:002007-10-03T13:14:00.000-04:00Ryan,you're right about dual pivots beinjg just re...Ryan,<BR/>you're right about dual pivots beinjg just reconfigured centerpull brakes. however, i see 2 problems with the dual pivot configuration.<BR/><BR/>the pivot location for the arm that holds the cable housing barrel seems overly short in relation to the arm that holds the pad, creating a less powerful brake. this is before any ME analysis, but i swapped my 556 brakes back to centerpulls for part of this reason<BR/><BR/>the 2nd is the shape of the centerpull is much more friendly to riding with fenders and racks. when mounted adjacent to a tubus fly rack, the arms won't be pushed out of alignment by a pannier like my tektro 556 did. also, the arms dont pivot towards fender possibly smooshing them, but rather away from the fenders.<BR/><BR/>the elegance, i agree, but then the ones chris posted looked way to industrial for my taste, and i eve like the paul racer centerpulls<BR/><BR/>roryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7242811174643472262007-10-03T13:00:00.000-04:002007-10-03T13:00:00.000-04:00Dan & Rory,That Tektro "side-pulling" centerpull i...Dan & Rory,<BR/>That Tektro "side-pulling" centerpull is interesting, but looks way clunkier to my eye than the R556. It seems to me that the modern "dual-pivot" brakes are essentially centerpulls that have been re-styled to look like side pulls.<BR/><BR/>RyanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42529906577563682272007-10-03T12:53:00.000-04:002007-10-03T12:53:00.000-04:00I originally built up a bike with 38mm tires for r...I originally built up a bike with 38mm tires for riding dirt roads and trails, but after discovering how sweet they are on asphalt, I'll never go back to skinny tires even on a road bike.<BR/>Plus, much of the so-called "pavement" I ride on is rougher than many of the trails!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78233411472162447812007-10-03T12:37:00.000-04:002007-10-03T12:37:00.000-04:00I would second what rory said about centerpulls --...I would second what rory said about centerpulls -- long-reach sidepulls are pretty clunky to me, whereas centerpulls work great, look good, and that new design from tektro eliminates the hassles with hangers and straddle wires. Something like that with longer reach would be huge .<BR/>Dan S.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37775602520684742732007-10-03T12:23:00.000-04:002007-10-03T12:23:00.000-04:00"You can please some of the people some of the tim..."You can please some of the people some of the time, but you can't please all the people.."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-44587606905964828882007-10-03T11:46:00.000-04:002007-10-03T11:46:00.000-04:00I ride the Iron Horse as well and usually use Mich...I ride the Iron Horse as well and usually use Michelin Jet cross tires. I also like the CdV 650b for that sort of stuff. However, I don't consider the Iron Horse a road - it's a trail. I'm talking about people who ride wide tires on asphalt.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-31162626057484521392007-10-03T11:42:00.000-04:002007-10-03T11:42:00.000-04:00I don't want a sidepull. I want a centerpull that...I don't want a sidepull. I want a centerpull that doesn't require the hanger, similar to the time trial version, but with longer reach:<BR/>http://www.tektro.com/02products/09r725.php<BR/><BR/>and as a response to this<BR/>"I don't get people who ride 700x36+ tires. Where are you riding that you need that much cushion?? "<BR/><BR/>The Iron Horse unpaved trail, a nice long unpaved trail that is a great alternative to riding over snoqualmie pass.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com