tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post975886462149776740..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: TA "Cyclo Touriste" Cranks ReduxVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22313648366797983252018-04-05T15:06:36.276-04:002018-04-05T15:06:36.276-04:00I love my Spécialités T.A. Cyclotouriste Pro 5 Vis...I love my Spécialités T.A. Cyclotouriste Pro 5 Vis crankset! It's 36-54T and came on my '71 Schwinn Sports Tourer (w/ T.A. bottom bracket) - amazing range and so beautiful :) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14675201901608236672016-08-09T10:12:35.317-04:002016-08-09T10:12:35.317-04:00We sell bolts here
http://store.velo-orange.com/in...We sell bolts here<br />http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/components/cranksets/chainrings/connecting-hardware-for-vo-50-4-cranks-double-kit-v2.htmlVeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-4175509245226678552016-08-09T09:49:41.903-04:002016-08-09T09:49:41.903-04:00If I've happened to drop two sets of chain rin...If I've happened to drop two sets of chain ring bolts(triple) on the road, where can I get new ones?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54190019872797024892010-09-07T12:51:04.155-04:002010-09-07T12:51:04.155-04:00Okay does anyone here know what ISO sealed BB will...Okay does anyone here know what ISO sealed BB will work with one of these?<br />I want to replace the TA BB as the the left crank kept coming undone and then developed play. I can swap out to Stronglight 49D but not sure what if they are the same design but i think these are ISO? The crank came on my 1984 MT Becane and it is a triple. Many thanks, Gary UKGaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10222621926391231737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38873988690099535982009-08-24T22:45:52.542-04:002009-08-24T22:45:52.542-04:00Hi,
What crank-arm lengths are still available? I...Hi,<br /><br />What crank-arm lengths are still available? I'd like 175 or 177.5mm but 172.5 is too short. Also, what gear combinations are available with the set? I would like 44t & 28t but could go up or down 2t on either chainring.<br /><br />Do I order this as a unit or as seperate parts?<br /><br />MichaelMichaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88380045660500225602007-12-21T19:16:00.000-05:002007-12-21T19:16:00.000-05:00I was wondering, does the Pro Vis use a JIS or ISO...I was wondering, does the Pro Vis use a JIS or ISO bottom spindle taper?JonathanGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02623964851364251258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-92230875359814164872007-12-20T08:01:00.000-05:002007-12-20T08:01:00.000-05:00The tooling for these is old, and they require alo...The tooling for these is old, and they require alot of finish work. The price reflects that. There is no other product on the market like them, and the fact that T.A. can't seem to discontinue them proves that there is still some demand. I like them and think that they are still worth every penny...AND I am glad that my money supports a great old company like T.A......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22790658997890896082007-12-19T10:51:00.000-05:002007-12-19T10:51:00.000-05:00Yann, most 115mm-118mm BBs will be fine.Michael, T...Yann, most 115mm-118mm BBs will be fine.<BR/><BR/>Michael, True, you do not need a triple front dérailleur and I don't have one on my bike, but I think there is a slight advantage to them.<BR/><BR/>C, I think one of the reasons the cranks cost so much is that the forging is not done in-house. Also, much depends on how much labor goes into a product; chainrings are mostly machine made without a great deal of hand machining or polishing. Finally, TA is a small company and does not have the economy of scale of some of the Asian manufacturers.<BR/><BR/>The PX crank has a wider q-factor and it's 40-50gms heavier. It's also anodized, which means it can't be re-polished after 10 or 20 years. Still, I should have spoken to Sugino about the PX cranks when I was at Interbike. I don't personally know anyone there, but I think our agent does.<BR/><BR/>Chris, Pedal washers simply prevent the pedals from digging into the crankarm when tightened.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-56711669837960857102007-12-19T10:19:00.000-05:002007-12-19T10:19:00.000-05:00Chris:How difficult is Sugino to work with? Any ch...Chris:<BR/><BR/>How difficult is Sugino to work with? Any chance they could be persuaded to bring back the PX? Not as pretty as the TA but just as functional. Probably stronger as well.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-55547719195245066872007-12-19T10:18:00.000-05:002007-12-19T10:18:00.000-05:00"That's assuming those Campag and TA items you ref..."That's assuming those Campag and TA items you reference are sourced and finished exclusively in Europe.......All the OE business is in China and to a lesser extent Taiwan (mostly destined for the European bike market) these days.<BR/><BR/>Maybe the TA bottles are made where the other 'producers' produce them. "<BR/><BR/>TA bottle are still made in France. Jan pointed this out in BQ recently. Again, Shimano and Campy rings are MORE expensive than TA. Even if they were made in China (and Campy isn't) they should be cheaper than TA's French built rings. <BR/><BR/>What's weird is TA can produce rings and bottles in France at very reasonable costs. However the 5 vis is quite a bit more than comparable, made in Europe, alloy cranks despite being a simpler to produce design. It's very odd. I can only assume it's a result of making them in small, limited runs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-90774619781893858132007-12-19T08:06:00.000-05:002007-12-19T08:06:00.000-05:00Somebody needs to make a beautiful (slender arms p...Somebody needs to make a beautiful (slender arms please!), polished silver, wide range double crankset for under $100 - preferably well under $100.<BR/>I don't care if it's from Taiwan or Kentucky but some of us cannot afford $250 plus for a crankset.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-72764176348781045042007-12-19T02:44:00.000-05:002007-12-19T02:44:00.000-05:00Chris,For the pedal spindle, is it 9/16" on these ...Chris,<BR/><BR/>For the pedal spindle, is it 9/16" on these cranks? Also do you know the tread if you set this up as a double or a triple?<BR/><BR/>Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64630972565143253802007-12-18T23:11:00.000-05:002007-12-18T23:11:00.000-05:00C- said: 'The currency argument doesn't make much ...C- said: 'The currency argument doesn't make much sense since Campagnolo and TA are both on the Euro these days. Plus other TA items are not priced unusually high. For instance, TA chainrings are actually less expensive than DuraAce or Record. Their water bottles are no more expensive than those from other producers. Go figure.'<BR/><BR/>That's assuming those Campag and TA items you reference are sourced and finished exclusively in Europe.......All the OE business is in China and to a lesser extent Taiwan (mostly destined for the European bike market) these days. <BR/><BR/>Maybe the TA bottles are made where the other 'producers' produce them. <BR/>I'm not entirely sure that campy chainrings, bolts, bearings, etc are forged, cleaned, polished, painted and packaged in Italy any longer. Remember ,these are the small parts that make the larger component. I know for sure the QR levers are no longer made in Italy- not since 2005 or 2006.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6857570101029840792007-12-18T21:45:00.000-05:002007-12-18T21:45:00.000-05:00You don't need a triple front derailleur to shift ...You don't need a triple front derailleur to shift a 16 tooth difference of the front chainrings. I have a 46/27 double that shifts fine with a flat-plate ultegra double front derailleur.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65684968465797944382007-12-18T20:49:00.000-05:002007-12-18T20:49:00.000-05:00I'm curious what the deal is with the pedal washer...I'm curious what the deal is with the pedal washers. I never see mention of such with newer designs. Why are they recommended for the TA's? Do cranks tend to crack at the pedal eye if over tightened?Chris J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13348011474616658959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1679679707646681302007-12-18T19:10:00.000-05:002007-12-18T19:10:00.000-05:00I just bought some used TA cranks but I do not kno...I just bought some used TA cranks but I do not know what type of bottom bracket I can use (apart from an old TA one). Do any of the bottom brackets you sell work?<BR/><BR/>The cranks are French threaded.<BR/><BR/>thank you,Yann G.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13946197159361678841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88865152898160469952007-12-18T18:47:00.000-05:002007-12-18T18:47:00.000-05:00Boy this is where I'd love to see an investment by...Boy this is where I'd love to see an investment by VO, Rivendell, Hiawatha etc., buying up a big run of these cranks in 170, 175 and 180mm, you know , enough to make it worth their while to produce them. Or better still, find a way to purchase the tooling or make a near-replica under the VO banner (way expensive, I know). I have a couple of pairs and the versatility is fantastic. I took an old Paramount, installed a 13-23 6sp Ultra w/ a TA 49/26 double and ended up w/ 12 distinct usable gears. Either these or a VO labeled crank w/ 110/74 capability.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-26897045935173123762007-12-18T18:44:00.000-05:002007-12-18T18:44:00.000-05:00The currency argument doesn't make much sense sinc...The currency argument doesn't make much sense since Campagnolo and TA are both on the Euro these days. Plus other TA items are not priced unusually high. For instance, TA chainrings are actually less expensive than DuraAce or Record. Their water bottles are no more expensive than those from other producers. Go figure. <BR/><BR/>Really makes me wish I'd kept the pair from my Singer!Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15554011179925374982007-12-18T18:25:00.000-05:002007-12-18T18:25:00.000-05:00I'm still ticked at TA for discontinuing the Zephy...I'm still ticked at TA for discontinuing the Zephyr.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36220839135181547952007-12-18T17:26:00.000-05:002007-12-18T17:26:00.000-05:00An other reason for the high price, with the value...An other reason for the high price, with the value of the currency, is that - as said often chris - you have to paid our cheese and wine... ahahah<BR/>and our hospitals and our schools and... in France we have a lot of taxes because social protection of workers has a price. But we are ok with that.<BR/>And i'm sure you are so proud with products "made in the usa" than we are with "fabriqué en France" ;)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07242895374372451440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-29181624368472284282007-12-18T17:13:00.001-05:002007-12-18T17:13:00.001-05:00I love TA cranks - there is a set on one of my bik...I love TA cranks - there is a set on one of my bikes that has been going strong since 1971. A Phil Wood bottom bracket and Campy NR front derailleur complete the package. A cycling classic. <BR/><BR/>Part of the reason for the high price is the relative value of the currency. Plus the finishing - final mirror polish is by hand, which is expensive. Back in the day, they were cheaper than Campy. Most of the Campys have failed, however.<BR/><BR/>TA Carmina crank is an excellent unit also.<BR/><BR/>Mark Petry<BR/>Bainbridge Island, WAmpetry912https://www.blogger.com/profile/02434530239246909594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19497495261412426172007-12-18T17:13:00.000-05:002007-12-18T17:13:00.000-05:00I think you answered my main question: do you need...I think you answered my main question: do you need a triple derailleur to make a 16 tooth shift?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24931908975514827652007-12-18T17:01:00.000-05:002007-12-18T17:01:00.000-05:00Michael, Maybe. My favorites are Simplex or Campy ...Michael, Maybe. My favorites are Simplex or Campy triple dérailleur. But most dérailleurs will shift that combination.<BR/><BR/>Lesli, I should have warned you. It took me at least 30 minutes to get my chainguard lined up just right.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37085684954944056542007-12-18T16:58:00.000-05:002007-12-18T16:58:00.000-05:00I'd love to buy a pair but honestly it's hard for ...I'd love to buy a pair but honestly it's hard for me get over the price. The tooling is paid for and finish work on these cranks has to be a lot easier than most thanks to the nice flat surfaces. The design has been around forever so it's not like there are any R&D costs to be recouped. Also nobody races on TA cranks these days so it's not like you're having to pay for a bunch of pro teams as is the case with Shimano, FSA and Campy.<BR/><BR/>For the same money or less you can get a Centaur or Ultegra set which includes rings, bolts and a bottom bracket. Those cranks, in theory, should be more expensive for many of the reasons above. <BR/><BR/>I love everything about the TA crank, have sued them on bikes in the past, will likely end up getting a set for my next bike, and I know Chris isn't making a lot of money selling them. That said, I just don't get why they cost so much more than other alloy cranks.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-10241409351957420272007-12-18T16:06:00.000-05:002007-12-18T16:06:00.000-05:00I used it very successfully with an old Suntour Su...I used it very successfully with an old Suntour Superbe Pro front derailleur, but just about anything w/o an overly shaped outer plate will work. <BR/><BR/>It's a great crank. Just don't forget the pedal washers (says the voice of experience). It is certainly possible to break one without crashing and under normal loads. I'd also dare say that the TA hardware was a little on the soft side (especially for the torque applied to chainring bolts). I've heard that the hardware for the Sugino PX was of better quality.<BR/><BR/>Glad to hear this crank may live on.Andrew Karrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489549432775603390noreply@blogger.com