tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post9179032682393186720..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: BPA and Water BottlesVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-69386304974082636242011-02-07T23:06:49.465-05:002011-02-07T23:06:49.465-05:00That's why I always use stainless water bottle...That's why I always use stainless water bottles - so I don't even have to worry about what's in the plastic.Amyhttp://www.back2tap.com/stainlesswaterbottlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34456569654740590362009-09-25T15:22:56.931-04:002009-09-25T15:22:56.931-04:00You will know best what the volumes look like, and...You will know best what the volumes look like, and whether they justify ordering your own shipment. <br /><br />Quality, as you have noted, is not hard to verify (but watch for seamed bottoms to bottles, which taste like a weld! I fell for that one.)<br /><br />I work for a distributor in an unrelated industry, and we cringe at the amount of time our capital is tied up with overseas orders. It can be 5 months before you see a dime back, which is painful to the cash flow. Sometimes, letting somebody else deal with that is worth it...mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15205886521439943636noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-32698412976347584742009-09-15T01:22:42.569-04:002009-09-15T01:22:42.569-04:00I have an idea for a SS water bottle, probably mor...I have an idea for a SS water bottle, probably more for professionals and office workers. My spin on it would be in the design of the bottle. You know how there are all kinds of mp3 players out there, but everyone loves, and pays a premium for, the Ipod. That would be my idea for the bottle. Any idea where I would find a manufacturer that I could approach? Post or email me at topbrandNOSPAM@gmail.com. Thanx.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-58286983965633286252009-09-09T12:39:30.053-04:002009-09-09T12:39:30.053-04:00Oops, I meant Sigg, not KK. Sigg's president j...Oops, I meant Sigg, not KK. Sigg's president just issued an apology according to another blog.Le Cagotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-30111737865949253712009-09-09T11:44:08.589-04:002009-09-09T11:44:08.589-04:00Le Cagot -
The article you reference does not men...Le Cagot -<br /><br />The article you reference does not mention KK.<br /><br />Did you mean to say Sigg not KK? Or perhaps did you mean to reference this article:<br />http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2009/04/19/opinion/20090419bottle.html<br /><br />The 27 oz KK bottles do not rattle in the futuristic version of the King Cages. I suspect they also don't rattle in the VO modern cage (which shares the same design).bskhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956068370281211552noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16505945560500346642009-09-08T16:50:17.155-04:002009-09-08T16:50:17.155-04:00Patagonia slammed KK in their blog:
http://www.the...Patagonia slammed KK in their blog:<br />http://www.thecleanestline.com/2009/09/patagonia-terminates-relationship-with-sigg-water-bottles.htmlLe Cagotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13805698493365294922009-09-08T13:24:31.685-04:002009-09-08T13:24:31.685-04:00What about the plastic caps on the
KK? A local sto...What about the plastic caps on the<br />KK? A local store had similar looking bottles with caps that emitted scent and flavor.<br />I'd like to see a clear 1l PP bottle<br />(seem to see them in 600ml only)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38366906182192072012009-09-05T17:22:58.965-04:002009-09-05T17:22:58.965-04:00OK, good copy, you are delivering a message to bot...OK, good copy, you are delivering a message to both your supplier and your customers. Personally I definitely don't like that sort of tactic, but heck, who am I to complain.<br /><br />If you want the very same bottles with a small shape change to make them characteristic, easy to go through an agent stating exactly what your requirements are. However, you'll be fronting the bread for stock, and if a bad batch arrives, you'll find it a mite difficult to get any money back.Nick Wong Leenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65595941450412663372009-09-04T17:57:36.083-04:002009-09-04T17:57:36.083-04:00Dear Chris,
KK does a fine job at what they do. ...Dear Chris,<br /><br />KK does a fine job at what they do. Why reinvent the wheel, unless you can outperform them in your niche?<br /><br />I recommend a bit of scotchbrite pad over steel wool for de-logoing SS things.<br /><br />If the 27oz rattles and you want to use a stainless steel bottle, then give it a couple of wraps with handlebar tape. It worked fine with the 16oz Nissan/Thermos vacuum bottle I've had since around 2002. I had to re-wrap it after thirty or forty trips through the dishwasher because the electrical tape holding the bar wrap down came loose. It has been fine ever since, no rattle, and it is oh-so-stealthy black.<br /><br />Drifting afield:<br /><br />A Specialized bottle is BPA free, but God knows what other plasticizing agents are leaching into the water. <br /><br />Large concentrations of BPA are a concern for pregnant/lactating folks and pre-pubescent girls as far as I can tell from the studies. <br /><br />To avoid BPA, keep away from anything (acidic) packed in cans: fruits, vegetables, canned drinks, etc--all are lined with plastics containing BPA to keep the food from eating the can. Good luck finding tomatoes canned in glass jars (the lids are coated with linings containing BPA).<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br />Will<br />William M. deRosset<br />Fort Collins, COWMdeRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15531125254328045995noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73916719936647234872009-09-04T03:50:59.673-04:002009-09-04T03:50:59.673-04:00How thick is the lining inside a SIGG bottle compa...How thick is the lining inside a SIGG bottle compared to the total thickness of a plastic bottle? A twentieth?<br /><br />It would stand to reason that it subsequently leeches about a twentieth (or whatever fraction it is) of the BPA of a plastic bottle. And zero chromium/cadmium/whatever.Uncle Anklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-61008572606069068972009-09-03T18:53:55.774-04:002009-09-03T18:53:55.774-04:00Just a few observations:
1. KK bottles tend to ra...Just a few observations: <br />1. KK bottles tend to rattle in my VO cages unless you bend the cages to fit them snugly, not only because they are slightly smaller in diameter than SIGG, but because the bottoms are somewhat rounded. <br />2. I like SIGG bottles somewhat better because I think the KK bottles have a slight metallic taste, and because the openings on SIGG are smaller which better accomodates drinking out of the bottle directly (I hate plastic nipple tops). <br />3. I read the tests published by SIGG on their website in regard to the old bottles. Doesn't seem to me to be any danger of BPA leeching whatsoever from the old liner. Can't quite say that about KK metal leaching. <br />In my opinion, the whole brouhaha seems much ado about nothing.alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17998823301619040112009-09-03T18:01:12.993-04:002009-09-03T18:01:12.993-04:00Here is a thought;
Seriously,
HOw about a nicely m...Here is a thought;<br />Seriously,<br />HOw about a nicely made TITANIUM one liter sport bottle with a really good sport cap?<br />im serious about this...It would be great, I love my titanium camp cooking pot, so light!Brandonneurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13782755618549507116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-40900195017063297622009-09-03T03:21:38.790-04:002009-09-03T03:21:38.790-04:00Dan S:
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models....Dan S:<br /><br />http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=13638<br /><br />"105 level", apparently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80873881462304567932009-09-02T20:32:37.040-04:002009-09-02T20:32:37.040-04:00After I wrote my earlier comment about KK bottles ...After I wrote my earlier comment about KK bottles rattling, I thought about how nasty the water tastes from plastic bottles (BPA or no) and so now I'm thinking, keep the KK, squeeze the cage tighter, and if needed, apply little bits of tape here and there. The nice squeezing action available in plastic bottles, well, I can get used to that being gone.<br /><br />DS, WIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12070806762109398382009-09-02T20:12:18.573-04:002009-09-02T20:12:18.573-04:00I would never recommend buying any metal product f...I would never recommend buying any metal product from China that you are going to eat/drink or handle, they are notorious for mixing scrap metals of lower quality and passing it off as a higher standard. <br /><br />I like the Nalgene bottles as they are unbreakable easy to fill,and hold a lot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7964294974940024262009-09-02T19:59:42.356-04:002009-09-02T19:59:42.356-04:00If you are just going to import bottles of the sam...If you are just going to import bottles of the same type and quality as Kleen Kanteen, then I do not see the point of doing so.<br /><br />If you offer something better, then at least there will be a reason to choose it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54036502526874258832009-09-02T17:36:20.612-04:002009-09-02T17:36:20.612-04:00I agree that the stainless bottles are kind of on ...I agree that the stainless bottles are kind of on the heavy side. <br /><br />Will there be a drillium version offered ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41006759849248683762009-09-02T17:02:07.318-04:002009-09-02T17:02:07.318-04:00I have a specialized bike bottle. It may not tain...I have a specialized bike bottle. It may not taint your water with harmful compunds, but it does make your water taste nasty after a few hours.<br /><br />The problem with any single-thin-walled bottle, plastic or metal or even glass, is that if you put hot liquids in it, the casing will quickly reach similar temperatures as the liquid. For metal, very quickly. Thus, if you put hot coffee in your single-walled metal bottle, you will not be able to hold it. Adding a second wall, preferably with either insulation or a vacuum, makes that not happen. And, because the liquid isn't heating up the walls, it stays hot longer, too.<br /><br />I suspect that, in the end, the real science about safe BPA levels is a few years off. But, as people are spazzing out now, that's a few years too late. Furthermore, there's nothing to say that everybody won't buy some magical BPA-free bottle and find out that it also can be made to emit harmful chemicals under normal use.wireheadhttp://www.wirewd.com/bike/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48771177728201662172009-09-02T16:32:29.162-04:002009-09-02T16:32:29.162-04:00For any of you who are concerned about BPA in your...For any of you who are concerned about BPA in your Sigg Bottles, they are offering an exchange program, allowing you to swap older bottles out for ones with their EcoCare liner.<br />http://mysigg.com/bulletin/exchange_program.htmlErik F.https://www.blogger.com/profile/03082505951644312204noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-31384479890475887812009-09-02T16:13:06.918-04:002009-09-02T16:13:06.918-04:00KK = Krispy Kreme, folks.....KK = Krispy Kreme, folks.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16160440800580901062009-09-02T15:53:05.261-04:002009-09-02T15:53:05.261-04:00I've ridden for over a year with KK bottles in...I've ridden for over a year with KK bottles in VO Moderniste cages without any rattles at all. If they rattle you can just squeeze the cage inward a little.Le Cagotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-31976063381759332009-09-02T15:18:38.361-04:002009-09-02T15:18:38.361-04:00As I rode home today with my KK clanking in its VO...As I rode home today with my KK clanking in its VO cage and my wonderful 8-speed Ultegra brifter perfectly snicking through the gears, these thoughts were going through my mind: I'm using a plastic bottle tomorrow (I love the silence and the squeeze) and I really wish someone would make Ultegra/XT shifters designed for 7 or 8 speed cassettes. Market it as an "adventure" group and get both the randonneurs and some of the more traditional off roaders. All you'd really need are shifters at first, most everything else is still made and 9-speed derailleurs seem to work OK with 8 cogs. Maybe a derailleur and another part or two at some point just so you can call it a "grouppo".<br />Dan S., WisconsinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22410497571198733572009-09-02T14:55:14.063-04:002009-09-02T14:55:14.063-04:00There is no harm in the epoxy liner used in the Si...There is no harm in the epoxy liner used in the Sigg water bottles.<br /><br />Yes, the epoxy contains BPA(as does most epoxy), but when the epoxy is cured(in the finished product) the BPA is inert.<br /><br />Also, not that Coca Cola is terribly good for you, Coca Cola and other manufacturers of canned products used epoxy(with BPA) as can liners.<br /><br />If Coca Cola can sit in a BPA-Epoxy lined can, and not eat through it, then I think that BPA-epoxy resin should pose little to no risk to the human digestive system.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11167858447349713136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19274741823518341332009-09-02T14:34:42.269-04:002009-09-02T14:34:42.269-04:00my friend sandblasted his KK... got a nice dull gr...my friend sandblasted his KK... got a nice dull grippy finish, and no more logos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59186037706353981952009-09-02T14:26:35.016-04:002009-09-02T14:26:35.016-04:00When I was a kid, in addition to the Canadian or B...When I was a kid, in addition to the Canadian or Blue in stubbies, all the rockers a bit older than I was carried wineskins to the bush parties. For you know, wine. But how VO would that be? A wineskin? It would look a little like a messenger bag, but could carry your drinkables in style. (it could even have a second strap a la a courier bag, so it wouldn't slip.) I am serious on this one. Wine skins. I bet you could find an elegant leather crafter to make the outer skin, and they could be lined with something safe and tasteless/odourless. Niche market, collapsable, elegant, environmentally friendly, kind of french.<br />M BurdgeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com