tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post845104904932340920..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: MiscellanyVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-27869323822241598502011-03-10T12:57:55.748-05:002011-03-10T12:57:55.748-05:00+1 more for a short reach/drop compact bar in 26.0...+1 more for a short reach/drop compact bar in 26.0 silver. There is a whole thread of folks putting ergo's and STI's on their classic and vintage bikes on bikeforums. I bet at least half of those guys would be interested in that type of bar, MYSELF INCLUDED!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-57737216835699947522011-02-07T13:28:49.104-05:002011-02-07T13:28:49.104-05:00I figured that there was some sort of relationship...I figured that there was some sort of relationship between the spoke holes and the flange drillings...excellent news on the short reach/drop (compact?) bar!Dalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14965627917766252437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91178604666770251352011-02-02T11:36:00.615-05:002011-02-02T11:36:00.615-05:00The holes will line up on the 36h version, not on ...The holes will line up on the 36h version, not on the 32h; can't have it both ways. The hubs are super strong, even with the holes.<br /><br />We are working on a short reach/ short drop bar.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-3619900098139761312011-02-02T03:33:59.639-05:002011-02-02T03:33:59.639-05:00Gran Sport hubs used a similar drilling. If the ho...Gran Sport hubs used a similar drilling. If the holes were on the drive side, even more hollowed out, and utilizing a fixed-gear application, then I'd worry. Otherwise, the drilled side (assuming it'll be dished) carries very little load.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6363320857268738332011-02-01T15:00:08.555-05:002011-02-01T15:00:08.555-05:00Chris, Tom, other V/O staff:
I remember reading ...Chris, Tom, other V/O staff: <br /><br />I remember reading the first teaser post on these hubs and seeing a comment regarding the placement of the drillings between spoke holes. Someone mentioned that the old maxi-cars had the drillings fall right between two spoke holes in an effort to minimize weak spots between the two types of holes. Your hubs are not symmetrical and there are some spots where it looks like the the material gets pretty narrow between the holes. I'm no materials engineer and don't have any opinion one way or another, I was just hoping someone might speak to the issue and offer some assurance that this was tested during the development phase. If it's a non-issue, I'm quite impressed with these new hubs.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09054633815547808279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1035775254530527092011-01-31T22:09:37.597-05:002011-01-31T22:09:37.597-05:00I second Uncle's request for the Nitto M106 ba...I second Uncle's request for the Nitto M106 bars (in silver of course!).<br />I'd love some compact bars for my touring bike!<br />webwebnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14468404941222138472011-01-30T20:35:22.863-05:002011-01-30T20:35:22.863-05:00What is the axle diameter and what is the spline m...What is the axle diameter and what is the spline made of?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19363785935210730342011-01-30T00:41:12.616-05:002011-01-30T00:41:12.616-05:00Lack of drive-side holes strengthens the side that...Lack of drive-side holes strengthens the side that carries the spoke load. The drilled side doesn't need the extra strength or weight. Also, non-drive holes would be easy to clean with a rag; however, holes on the other side (especially with the extra debris exacerbated by modern hollowed out cassettes) would require disassembling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38216119568820748542011-01-29T16:30:04.571-05:002011-01-29T16:30:04.571-05:00Yeah, actually a nice looking hub but I too wonder...Yeah, actually a nice looking hub but I too wonder about the non drive side holes. It would, IMO, look better without them. And they are just that many more places for crud to accumulate.alannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1967658738002436462011-01-28T14:02:11.176-05:002011-01-28T14:02:11.176-05:00Also, we're looking at this hub totally out of...Also, we're looking at this hub totally out of context. Lace it up, install a cassette, and then see if the drive-side holes would matter. <br /><br />One may notice the asymmetry of not having holes on the driveside, but a bicycle drive train is inherently asymmetric, and I doubt I'd miss the holes, hidden as they would be behind the cassette.jimmytheflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060952522546330342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16904148389741312542011-01-27T18:12:00.427-05:002011-01-27T18:12:00.427-05:00Did you ever give a frame to the guy who named you...Did you ever give a frame to the guy who named your Polyvalent frame?Gino Zahndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06275140649410336549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-83623081259837700482011-01-27T17:05:03.923-05:002011-01-27T17:05:03.923-05:00Allan:
My bad with the snark. Sorry.
It can be...Allan: <br /><br />My bad with the snark. Sorry. <br /><br />It can be difficult to get a wide range of feedback. Most of it is good, but some is not always well written and not at all 'constructive'. Blog and forum postings leave a lot of language missing; body language, facial expressions, and inflection of voice is the other half of communication. <br />Chris actively moderates this blog now. Believe me, he is pretty liberal with what actually gets posted. You should see the comments He rejects.....<br /><br />I do hear ya about the symmetry issue. We went back and forth, had multiple samples made in various drilling patterns. This one is the best of the bunch in terms of aesthetics, based on our internal discussions. The smaller holes would not be the same size of our other hubs, and we would end up needing a new front hub to match it. Not to mention additional tooling costs for a smaller dia hole being milled in the hub flanges. Tooling costs and SKU count need to be taken into consideration when designing stuff. Otherwise it drives up cost and complexity for everyone (the factory, VO employees, our dealers and customers) and the potential for mistakes increases in terms of ordering, manufacturing, marketing, etc. <br /><br />I'm sure if we did go that route, there would be people who would find it displeasing. <br /><br />Yikes. That's a long explanation.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63238661755515761672011-01-27T15:57:47.505-05:002011-01-27T15:57:47.505-05:00Off topic: could you possibly be persuaded to cons...Off topic: could you possibly be persuaded to consider distributing the <a href="http://www16.ocn.ne.jp/~nitto210/topics.html" rel="nofollow">Nitto M106NAS</a> (catchy name, isn't it)? I surely can't be alone in wanting a silver 26,0 mm compact (comfortable + Ergo/STI-friendly) drop bar?Uncle Anklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-8036765838099753592011-01-27T14:36:33.757-05:002011-01-27T14:36:33.757-05:00Allan - please learn to be quiet when appropriate....Allan - please learn to be quiet when appropriate. If you want more holes go buy some Swiss cheese. Your comments are not constructive, they are niggling and petty criticisms.<br /><br />What would be nice on the freehub would be having the non-drive side flange slightly larger in diameter so that one length of spoke could be used for both sides.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47198405348002552852011-01-27T13:23:06.134-05:002011-01-27T13:23:06.134-05:00The drillings are also meant to reduce weight righ...The drillings are also meant to reduce weight right? I'm guessing that you could reduce more weight by having slightly smaller drillings on both sides of the hub. So, in my opinion, the hub could be lighter and symmetrical with a relatively small design change.. but as you allude to when you say that "don't like strawberry chocolate milk"... There's just no accounting for taste.<br /><br />As an aside, is it just me, or are you folks getting a bit more impatient with dissenting (and potentially constructive) opinions as you get more and more popular?<br /><br />AllanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88499815083598173692011-01-27T09:51:37.875-05:002011-01-27T09:51:37.875-05:00Allan:
I don't like strawberry chocolate mil...Allan: <br /><br />I don't like strawberry chocolate milk either.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84620533235591579222011-01-26T20:44:42.221-05:002011-01-26T20:44:42.221-05:00Looks good. Is the design drive ring based (ala Ph...Looks good. Is the design drive ring based (ala Phil, Profile, etc, where the pawls engage interior teeth of a ring screwed screwed into the shell) or "ratchet-mechanism-inside-the-freehub" (where all ratcheting parts are contained within the freehub, ala Shimano, Mavic, etc)?<br />Availability of replacement freehubs, drive rings, and drive ring removal tools, as applicable? If it's a drive ring design, does it happen to use the same removal tool as any others out there (Phil, Suzue, etc)?Nate Knutsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-61238224576391385232011-01-26T18:29:03.231-05:002011-01-26T18:29:03.231-05:00Postino, I like it!
Very nice hubs to.Postino, I like it!<br />Very nice hubs to.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18254549814559852579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2205516092482176942011-01-26T17:12:53.612-05:002011-01-26T17:12:53.612-05:00We will recommend matching this hub with the high ...We will recommend matching this hub with the high flange front hub that goes with our upcoming freewheel hubs. <br /><br />If you need a bolt on version, the Front Fixed hub will be good match.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21754697963343640242011-01-26T15:10:06.621-05:002011-01-26T15:10:06.621-05:005 speed, thread-on, french threads. If you can'...5 speed, thread-on, french threads. If you can't ride it, get a motorcycle;)halfstepnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12266838489451860812011-01-26T13:08:08.059-05:002011-01-26T13:08:08.059-05:00"Anon- 1:34- The holes on the non drive side ..."Anon- 1:34- The holes on the non drive side can not be in the drive side as there isn't enough room between the cassette ring drive and the spoke holes. We could have made the flanges HUGE, but that looked really really bizarre."<br /><br />So, instead, you decided to make them look only a bit bizarre by making the flanges asymmetrical? Ok,but you could have just made the drillings smaller.<br /><br />AllanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-76702175538782058302011-01-26T08:22:42.172-05:002011-01-26T08:22:42.172-05:00Looks very nice. I may have missed a post, but ar...Looks very nice. I may have missed a post, but are there any plans to offer a matching front hub?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73583227965298775252011-01-25T17:11:38.608-05:002011-01-25T17:11:38.608-05:00Will there be a Campy compatible version?Will there be a Campy compatible version?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28583210049653061202011-01-25T13:53:10.129-05:002011-01-25T13:53:10.129-05:00I could go for a 7-speed length free hub body, too...I could go for a 7-speed length free hub body, too. But not for 7 speeds. Rather I like the 8-of-9-on-7 trick.<br /><br />But, I'm not in the market for a rear hub, and if I were I'd be likely looking for a disc one anyway.jimmytheflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060952522546330342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59484316817093973392011-01-25T12:51:40.840-05:002011-01-25T12:51:40.840-05:00Seven speeds! Yes I'd be all for that!Seven speeds! Yes I'd be all for that!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com