tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post8221081104278362967..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: A Couple of IdeasVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger85125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-82637275180084616212008-12-02T07:16:00.000-05:002008-12-02T07:16:00.000-05:00I realize that this is several months after postin...I realize that this is several months after posting, but I would use this rack. Looking for something classic and lasting for the 1970's vintage Raleigh Record Ace for touring and utility riding.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-44934236968688238902008-11-14T15:59:00.000-05:002008-11-14T15:59:00.000-05:00I would love to find a ring lock for my rear wheel...I would love to find a ring lock for my rear wheel, to be used in conjunction with a U lock for the front wheel and frame. To my knowledge, none are available in the US; you have to order from overseas and pay ridiculous shipping. Please carry these.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-92038907987424121982008-11-12T09:32:00.000-05:002008-11-12T09:32:00.000-05:00Bragi: I certainly know your bike, have seen it a...Bragi: I certainly know your bike, have seen it around town. You have any pics to post?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80534177878495463342008-11-11T22:19:00.000-05:002008-11-11T22:19:00.000-05:00I like the ring lock with a crude button combinati...I like the ring lock with a crude button combination lock. Not only do you not have to remember your lock, you don't have to remember a key!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01924202563225518832noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-60333013509194715942008-11-11T22:15:00.000-05:002008-11-11T22:15:00.000-05:00About the ring locks -- what some people seem to m...About the ring locks -- what some people seem to miss is the fact that you can use it in tandem with a sturdy chain that locks into it. I have one on my Dutch bike (a Batavus Personal Delivery bike, which attracts a lot of attention), in Washington DC, and it works great. Built-in locks, built-in lights -- the Dutch know a thing or two.DDBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04004637653721673052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48638186397203141342008-11-11T12:31:00.000-05:002008-11-11T12:31:00.000-05:00What is the weight capacity of the rack?What is the weight capacity of the rack?Bart Newtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07214114227175153154noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47943424209597474032008-11-11T00:06:00.000-05:002008-11-11T00:06:00.000-05:00I've been using nothing BUT a ring lock on a custo...I've been using nothing BUT a ring lock on a custom-built Franklin touring bike here in Long Beach, CA (LA County) for more than 3 months, and on a tandem for more than 10 years... and I still have both bikes.<BR/><BR/>The idea of the ring lock isn't to lean your bike up on a tree, set your lock and head inside for bed.<BR/><BR/>It's to keep honest people honest.<BR/><BR/>You lean it on a tree and walk in to the corner store with the big windows; You lean it on the patio railing at a sidewalk cafe, then grab a seat right next to it; You lean it on a building to run in and grab your take-out.<BR/><BR/>Chris, if you stock these, I will buy 5. Honest.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-18100141485878469102008-11-10T23:59:00.000-05:002008-11-10T23:59:00.000-05:00I think that now would be a good time to introduce...I think that now would be a good time to introduce more racks, touring, commuting, porteur, etc. The present economic situation/gas prices favors this sort of thing. <BR/><BR/>I would personally like to see a good SS front and rear rack combo intended for heavy touring. I particularly like the idea of being able to carry front panniers and also have a shelf on the top of the rack to strap on a small bag or whatever; sort of like the Surly front Nice Rack. A braze-on for a light would be really nice too.Mandihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15278625733043332346noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-66641794188064851472008-11-10T21:24:00.000-05:002008-11-10T21:24:00.000-05:00I have an AXA Defender on my bike. I use it all t...I have an AXA Defender on my bike. I use it all the time in a busy urban environment. If I am running in and out of the store or the café, it is the perfect lock. It prevents someone from ghost riding off with it (it is way too heavy and has a step through frame, so carrying it is not practical). I use it with a long U-lock if I am in a situation requiring more security. I wish all my bikes had one of these on them.Adriennehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10828679738494471220noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80892685341570748302008-11-10T20:39:00.000-05:002008-11-10T20:39:00.000-05:00Ring Locks all the way, I'll take two right now.Ring Locks all the way, I'll take two right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21747749577997738242008-11-10T17:49:00.000-05:002008-11-10T17:49:00.000-05:00I was thinking of buying one of these ring locks j...I was thinking of buying one of these ring locks just the other day. I had to take some items to the post office and didn't have a lock with me. I was watching the bike with one eye the entire time I was in line, even though it was in a fairly safe location and it was a cheap older Schwinn. An immobilizing lock would have made me feel much better!TwoWheelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13768619049804874107noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-57230779024202673272008-11-10T14:44:00.000-05:002008-11-10T14:44:00.000-05:00anon wrote in response (I guess) to my comment:"Is...anon wrote in response (I guess) to my comment:<BR/>"Is a $15 retail alloy rack appropriate for a business like Velo Orange?"<BR/><BR/>To which I respond - I'm not asking for a $15 rack. I simply cited my $15 front rack as an example of a useful and inexpensive rack. What I'm asking for is a front rack that costs less and likely attracts less attention than than the current $95 VO rack. I ride in Brooklyn and Manhattan. While the VO rack is super, sorry, there is no way I'm putting that on my [NYC] city bike.<BR/><BR/>and <BR/>"... Someone will always have a cheaper price out there."<BR/><BR/>If somebody was offering this elsewhere, I wouldn't be so vocal in asking for it here. I can't seem to find this item anywhere. I don't really understand the resistance to this idea - I'm not asking Chris to sell garbage, just another practical alternative. It can be good looking and relatively inexpensive - the two do not need to be mutually exclusive. In fact, I think many of the items VO currently sells fall into this category. Take the recent stem adapter - it's well made, good looking, apparently selling well and I don't think anybody would argue that it is expensive.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-33284435217029092008-11-10T12:42:00.000-05:002008-11-10T12:42:00.000-05:00Ring locks are very useful for bikes that are used...Ring locks are very useful for bikes that are used for local errands and quick stops. I also use a Kryptoflex 4 ft cable that was permanently affixed to the lock when it was installed to keep people from throwing my bike in the back of a pickup truck. I bought a Axa-Basta Defender lock but I thought it was overkill and increased the weight of the bike too much(I use bus racks alot). I live in Indiana and ring locks are very uncommon here(which is good). I use a u-lock and the ring lock when I park at work or for an extended time. I have 3 bikes equipped with these locks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5033680768101998082008-11-10T12:23:00.000-05:002008-11-10T12:23:00.000-05:00Yes on the lock ring, but make sure it's compatibl...Yes on the lock ring, but make sure it's compatible with the single pin chain (and carry the chains) -- pretty much as the first comment mentioned.<BR/><BR/>My wife has one on her azor oma and it's super quick and easy for coffee stops and the like around town. I wouldn't leave my bike at train station over night locked that way (well, I wouldn't do that locked _any_ way), but the combo of the beefy chain and unfamiliarity of the ringlock setup to thieves means it's _fairly_ safe for local stops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-67188298396313512942008-11-09T20:29:00.000-05:002008-11-09T20:29:00.000-05:00I love ring locks.. I need one for my townie and p...I love ring locks.. I need one for my townie and polo bike in the worst way.t.hudsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10776725407041947077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11849000204728824382008-11-09T16:07:00.000-05:002008-11-09T16:07:00.000-05:00If the aim is to carry heavy pannier loads and hav...If the aim is to carry heavy pannier loads and have nice-looking rear rack that fits the style of your city or rando bikes, I'd recommend one similar in shape to your contructeur rear rack but not attached to the fender. If it were a couple inches above the fender with short, very stiff attachment bars to the frame braze-ons, it would be strong enough for heavy shopping or camping and be a lot better looking than the tubus style rack pictured. I have a custom chromed-steel rack of this sort on my Ebisu, and at first I was disappointed that it wasn't the more Herse-like fender-attached type, but after getting Ortleib large rear panniers and loading very heavy grocery bags in them, I'm very glad to have the frame-attached rear rack. This is exactly the kind of use that Jan Heine describes in his latest issue of BQ with regard to the Urban Bike. I find that with a large rando-style front bag and the two rear Orleib panniers, I can carry very large shopping loads on a bike that looks very classic and well integrated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21603861908757393232008-11-08T22:42:00.000-05:002008-11-08T22:42:00.000-05:0068 comments on racks and locks. Whodda thunk? It ...68 comments on racks and locks. Whodda thunk? It seems there are two factions here. One wants a purely functional economical rack (Bobs?)and others want something a little special in both finish and general appearance. I'm not certain where the rack fits in, though it's nice enough. <BR/><BR/>On locks, I only use a light cable. I am not willing to carry a heavy, secure lock in the relatively safe area I live. I kind of hope to stop the casual thief, not the pro. So maybe the little clamp is okay. Ugly as sin though.Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73563851612628910482008-11-08T17:59:00.000-05:002008-11-08T17:59:00.000-05:00i would totaly buy this rack if you import it. if ...i would totaly buy this rack if you import it. if you were thinking about bringing in just a few to start, let me know. i would buy one of these!<BR/><BR/>cheersJeromehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09984978420642327867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1584003925910634962008-11-08T14:49:00.000-05:002008-11-08T14:49:00.000-05:00Much interest in the rack. Not sure about the lock...Much interest in the rack. Not sure about the lock, though. Too many pickup trucks in this neck of the woods, so I'd still worry about it getting grabbed.Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18388379478744970295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51635771128399031232008-11-08T13:33:00.000-05:002008-11-08T13:33:00.000-05:00As for Sprocketman's comment, that no one should c...As for Sprocketman's comment, that no one should care what a rack weighs as it's made for carrying weight: well, I don't carry things on the rack all the time, or even most of the time. Panniers and other loads can come on and off; the rack stays with the bike. I like it to be light for days I'm riding unburdened; strong for days I'm carrying stuff. The Tubus fulfills both requirements.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-70073002141578449912008-11-08T11:34:00.000-05:002008-11-08T11:34:00.000-05:00Is a $15 retail alloy rack appropriate for a busin...Is a $15 retail alloy rack appropriate for a business like Velo Orange? What else should Chris sell- a pricepoint singlewall 650b rim? A nylon seat bag for less than 10 bucks? Plastic fenders with steel stays?<BR/><BR/>Someone will always have a cheaper price out there. I don't think this is what Velo Orange is all about.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78451603140760392022008-11-08T09:16:00.000-05:002008-11-08T09:16:00.000-05:00"at 40 bucks, it's gonna be as servicable as a wal..."at 40 bucks, it's gonna be as servicable as a wald rack and a milk crate on top."<BR/><BR/>I disagree. Look at the pictures I posted further up the thread. This was a $12 rack - granted it was likely a blowout but I'm sure it would still be very inexpensive at full retail. I have Wald baskets - which I like very much - but the attachment hardware and support arms that come with the Walds are junk. The baskets themselves are very good and quite good looking. And for the Wald racks, they are poorly made, tend to bend and rust.<BR/>The Bor Yeuh is good looking and rock solid - infinitely better than the support arms from a Wald or a Wald rack.<BR/>I'm not asking for or expecting Tubus/Nitto/VO quality from a cheap rack - but there are cheap racks out there that are very practical and that I wish could be easily sourced. The Bor Yeuh or it's clone is at the top of my list.<BR/>nvAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-86078557137085970082008-11-08T00:00:00.000-05:002008-11-08T00:00:00.000-05:00"I would only hope VO could/would source such an i..."I would only hope VO could/would source such an item because apparently nobody else will."<BR/><BR/>at 40 bucks, it's gonna be as servicable as a wald rack and a milk crate on top. <BR/><BR/>http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-WALD-FRONT-BIKE-RACK_W0QQitemZ230214433996QQcmdZViewItemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54179084309494094722008-11-07T23:23:00.000-05:002008-11-07T23:23:00.000-05:00since we are both anon i guess it's hard to addres...since we are both anon i guess it's hard to address your concerns off list. i will say i admire the work chris is doing with velo-orange. he brings unique items to the market, he does thorough research, he has an eye for quality, and he is as transparent and honest as any businessman i've ever seen. i have ordered from him and will continue to order from him. there are some bike shops that hold wholesale prices as secrets, but the lbs's i frequent are often very honest about the pricing...i understand people need a margin to operate.<BR/><BR/>i understand that chris is proposing a higher-quality stainless rack.<BR/><BR/>i was only re-iterating that it looks strikingly similar to the aforementioned summit rack.<BR/><BR/>also<BR/><BR/>i am looking at the 2007 wilson catalog as i type this and yes, indeed, it was that price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12401588305026791522008-11-07T22:48:00.000-05:002008-11-07T22:48:00.000-05:00Yeap I want one, maybe two!Yeap I want one, maybe two!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com