tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post798692769273250758..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Samples Galore and The Guarding of ChainsVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger46125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34735074304810439252011-09-26T10:57:15.360-04:002011-09-26T10:57:15.360-04:00I would like a full oil metal chain guard.
SamI would like a full oil metal chain guard. <br /><br />SamAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-86558009830325833262009-09-15T19:21:28.198-04:002009-09-15T19:21:28.198-04:00Hmm. These look OK, but I think that if you'r...Hmm. These look OK, but I think that if you're going to go to the trouble of installing a chainguard on a bike that didn't come with one, you probably want to go the whole way and use a fully-enclosed chaincase. The steel one here looks cool, but it'd be pretty heavy, like the old Raleigh chaincases. What I'd want is a lightweight plastic chaincase that'd work with a fairly large front chainring (say, 46 teeth or larger) and a Sturmey-Archer 3-speed in the rear. Put the above on an '80s Japanese touring frame, and you'd have my dream commuter. Now, when is someone in the USA going to start importing the Hesling line of chaincases?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16390208820776574546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-39574072665697084842009-02-03T00:31:00.000-05:002009-02-03T00:31:00.000-05:00For us old geezers, equipping our bikes with chain...For us old geezers, equipping our bikes with chainguards would save us from bending over at least once in a trip. Hope you'll consider carrying a good selection.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5876161152238160152008-12-01T17:16:00.000-05:002008-12-01T17:16:00.000-05:00patate frites: It is possible. It's looking like a...patate frites: <BR/>It is possible. <BR/>It's looking like a standard off the shelf and simple chainguard is not so simple to execute. Especially when there is a desire for it to work with a front derailleur.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45807463384675594942008-12-01T16:52:00.000-05:002008-12-01T16:52:00.000-05:00Tom,do you think it would be possible to cut out t...Tom,<BR/><BR/>do you think it would be possible to cut out that BB mounting plate and install these guards using the hardware you sell here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.velo-orange.com/chandchha.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34122739329065865312008-12-01T14:21:00.000-05:002008-12-01T14:21:00.000-05:00One Piece Crank bottom brackets have the cups pres...One Piece Crank bottom brackets have the cups pressed in. There's not much room on the shoulder of the cup to accommodate a 1-3mm thick piece of sheet metal. The BB mount is part of the problem. There is hardly any side to side adjustment to clear the chainring and crankarm as it rotates.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21283104446444723372008-11-26T23:37:00.000-05:002008-11-26T23:37:00.000-05:00How are chain guards and chaincases attatched to t...How are chain guards and chaincases attatched to the BB? I understand that the actual guard attatches to some sort of bracket that somehow attatches to the BB. How is the bracket fixed to the BB?<BR/><BR/>Is it possible to hack together a similar bracket for an American hub shell?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19930525703274304052008-11-26T13:45:00.000-05:002008-11-26T13:45:00.000-05:00The very last one looks awesome.The very last one looks awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-35750566871817990242008-11-24T12:56:00.000-05:002008-11-24T12:56:00.000-05:00i would just love a chainguard for my derailleur b...i would just love a chainguard for my derailleur bike. When I think about it too much I come to Tom's conclusion-- that what I should really do is get an internally geared hub and a proper chaincase. But saving that, something that could handle an 8-spd cassette and a small front double chainring setup would be great. The multi-gear option in the last shot would be great if it worked on my Kogswell. I run a triple but minus the big ring, so I have some hope that it could work. <BR/><BR/>And I like the half-tube singlespeed version in the last photo, too-- might have to get one for the fixed-gear. I tried one of your aluminum chaincases but the q-factor on my track crank is so tight that it didn't work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-4497688880866319582008-11-24T12:08:00.000-05:002008-11-24T12:08:00.000-05:00I like the sound of that.I like the sound of that.reverend dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00090415465883988497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25950321409308784252008-11-24T10:03:00.000-05:002008-11-24T10:03:00.000-05:00Full chaincase is the way to go, with internally-g...Full chaincase is the way to go, with internally-geared hubs or single-speed/fixed.<BR/><BR/>What I want to see is a much higher quality full chaincase stainless steel that matches the zeppelin, hammered, Le Paon, Crocodile, styles etc. <BR/><BR/>With my name and optional motto laser engraved on it.<BR/><BR/>I'm still hoping you will consider reproducing the Brooks leather full-chaincases with metal snaps pictured in their (very old) catalogues (available on their site). I imagine the same design would work with heavy waxed black canvas or some other nautical canvas-like material they use to cover boats.lee.watkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00650449275019133632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-81500437108521504642008-11-24T08:26:00.000-05:002008-11-24T08:26:00.000-05:00I like the top two, they enhance the bulge in my l...I like the top two, they enhance the bulge in my lycra. The other ones are cheap looking and sort of boring. Afterall its all about the glamour index.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24732091555875573172008-11-23T23:48:00.000-05:002008-11-23T23:48:00.000-05:00the last one is great for the reason hank mentions...the last one is great for the reason hank mentions so succinctly.<BR/><BR/>i'd also go for a full chain case.<BR/><BR/>i'm an all season (including snowy, salty winters) city rider and ride either single speed or internal hub. derailleurs haven't served me well when completely caked with snow.<BR/><BR/>a chain case would go a long way to provide an alternative to nearly daily winter drive train clean ups.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-72755580710687299312008-11-23T12:50:00.000-05:002008-11-23T12:50:00.000-05:00I like chainguards and I think that if you use a s...I like chainguards and I think that if you use a single cog/chainring bike as your utility bike it makes sense to have one. I agree that it would be a major pain in the butt to deal with derailleurs when mounting chainguards. <BR/><BR/>What I would like know is why hasn't anyone invented a chain guard that "rides with" (is mounted to) the derailleurs? After all, the chain path is defined by front and rear derailleurs, it makes sense to mount it on those rather than the frame?angelo trivellihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17264669794904454635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12380069178864466172008-11-23T08:56:00.000-05:002008-11-23T08:56:00.000-05:00Boris,Thanks for the great list of chaincases! I ...Boris,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the great list of chaincases! I like De Woerd a lot. Despite the little British flag icon, there's no English on their site but it's not to hard to find the <A HREF="http://www.dewoerd.net/Producten/Geslotenkettingkast/tabid/267/Default.aspx" REL="nofollow"> page of pictures of chaincases</A> I like the first and last ones best.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076080703641893710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-23063991220236507032008-11-22T23:39:00.000-05:002008-11-22T23:39:00.000-05:00+1 on the trouser clip. I prefer elastic fabric.+1 on the trouser clip. I prefer elastic fabric.nordic_68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16681928489719451333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-18622638381690896392008-11-22T19:20:00.000-05:002008-11-22T19:20:00.000-05:00I like the idea of a german style chain cover that...I like the idea of a german style chain cover that uses a bb mount, but the long model is definitely going to be a problem with chain line, chain stay length and the issue of seat stay mount. Did you order any seat stay chain cover clamps? Those twisted clamps might also be usefull on older 3 speeds with long chaincovers. <BR/><BR/>In europe SKS and Shimano sell a bb with a thinner drive side flange for bikes with bb mounted chaincovers and chaincases. Do you think you'd need that? I've never tried retrofitting a bb mounted chaincover to a touring frame. <BR/><BR/>Perhaps the bb mount is a possible solution to the mounting hardware problem. If you have a short french style chaincover that used the bb mount, you wouldn't have to worry about stocking various and usually inadequate clamps, but you might want to stock european bottom brackets. If the chaincover was shiny and the frame and bb mount black, it might not look too bad. <BR/><BR/>Another thing we need is a chaincase with an ever wider opening or a VO crankset that would work better with your chaincase. You shouldn't expect customers to have to use TA cranks or find NOS sugino AT or super maxy stuff to use the VO chaincase. <BR/><BR/>JamesAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13029382448815261372008-11-22T18:46:00.000-05:002008-11-22T18:46:00.000-05:00I like the full chain guard, but I run internal hu...I like the full chain guard, but I run internal hubs, so they wouldn't be a problem, unless the chainstay is too short for the guard (actually I would like a bike with longer chainstays!).<BR/><BR/>The last one is nice too, perhaps it could be engineered in conjunction with a chainring (bash) guard in 46t and 52t versions.<BR/><BR/>Regarding chainring guards, TA Specialites makes the F15 guard, which has the best polish I have ever seen on a chainring guard.<BR/><BR/>An alternative, is to contact these folk and see if they still do custom guards. It seems like they stopped 2 years ago, but the site is still up and I wonder:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://homepage1.nifty.com/ct-seizan/sub03.html" REL="nofollow">CT Chainring</A>keithwwalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808096138218041326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-46629356808916325512008-11-22T18:38:00.000-05:002008-11-22T18:38:00.000-05:00Good to see you guys attacking the chainguard situ...Good to see you guys attacking the chainguard situation. I, too, would be willing to take on the risk of buying a chain guard that has a shot at working with a triple, and doing the fitting myself. I've been experimenting with chainguards over the years, and it's a pain to get one on any bike without some plain dumb luck. Metal fenders are fiddly and sometimes uncooperative, but chaingaurds are usually just frustrating. I have been considering plastic ones, because they can be painted, but I haven't got there yet.Some Guy on the Innernetshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13374415771586647422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-39415892786847546712008-11-22T04:17:00.000-05:002008-11-22T04:17:00.000-05:00You're missing many of the better chainguard manuf...You're missing many of the better chainguard manufacturers with the above.<BR/><BR/>Manufacturers of excellent chainguards and chaincases:<BR/><BR/>Hesling<BR/>De Woerd<BR/>Herrmann's<BR/>SKS<BR/>Hebie<BR/><BR/>Hebie makes an adjustable chaincase that accomodates triple front derailluers and upto a 48t big ring.<BR/><BR/>SKS recently introduced somthing similar, and Herrmann's has been making something like that for a while.<BR/><BR/>As for actually servicable chaincases, Hesling and De Woerd put everyone else to shame. The Hesling on my Trek L200 is a pleasure to use and keeps my drivetrain maintenance-free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22300318622472456242008-11-22T03:02:00.000-05:002008-11-22T03:02:00.000-05:00as others have said, my first reaction was "ooo, o...as others have said, my first reaction was "ooo, ooo, the last one"Thatcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14561916906654393211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28858951231955267052008-11-22T00:44:00.000-05:002008-11-22T00:44:00.000-05:00I commend you for taking on this challenging proje...I commend you for taking on this challenging project. I have been fruitlessly searching for a metal chain guard for a triple. I would be more than willing to go with something like the second to last model, with the understanding that the guard and mounting hardware merely provide a starting point for some necessary customization on my part...<BR/><BR/>Any chance you could at least import a plastic chain guard for a triple, similar to one that came OEM on my mum's Ketler upright? It works great, and for that I can handle the smokey plastic look...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38803196634341937422008-11-21T23:53:00.000-05:002008-11-21T23:53:00.000-05:00I really like that last one, too.I really like that last one, too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89809154993006327972008-11-21T21:46:00.000-05:002008-11-21T21:46:00.000-05:00It's not really feasible to stock the chaincase be...It's not really feasible to stock the chaincase because it won't easily go on a bike. But if you could design affordable VO city bikes so that they'd would work with the chaincase it would be awesome.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25594675633940729922008-11-21T21:39:00.000-05:002008-11-21T21:39:00.000-05:00I have a full chaincase on an Indian built roadste...I have a full chaincase on an Indian built roadster and once you get past the initial setup and adjustment, you forget it is there. <BR/><BR/>The bottom chainguard looks eerily like the one I pulled off a 70s italian folding bike and painted to match the headtube on my Bleriot.<BR/><BR/>I could go for either of those.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05757867708166688380noreply@blogger.com