tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post7858264952532480688..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Frames, frames, framesVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger153125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1918625929118792512009-12-24T17:15:09.626-05:002009-12-24T17:15:09.626-05:00The new semi-custom rando frame; this one is alrea...The new semi-custom rando frame; this one is already in the works!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62402631104732204482009-12-12T15:30:59.511-05:002009-12-12T15:30:59.511-05:00I second Julian's comment. I would eagerly awa...I second Julian's comment. I would eagerly await a large size 700c polyvalent. Thanks for considering it.B Lnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25822861078997156112009-12-06T01:46:40.178-05:002009-12-06T01:46:40.178-05:00I would love to see a classic road bike remake, so...I would love to see a classic road bike remake, so I really like the PX-10 idea. Several people have mentioned Hampsten. I would go for the Hampsten "Classic" model, rather than the Strada Bianca. 47-57 mm sidepulls, with the tire clearance maxed. Nice nimble handling. Please have at least a 62cm size, if not larger. The problem with the vintage bikes (and most current production road frames) is that they weren't designed with fender mounting in mind, even if they had good clearance. I know VO would consider all the fender friendly details in the design.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07720190832484123543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21397089245885437842009-12-03T21:00:13.904-05:002009-12-03T21:00:13.904-05:00I'd like to see domestic availability of a &qu...I'd like to see domestic availability of a "kruisframe" design with luged fork and brazons for cantilevers or direct pull canti's constructed of 4130 or even some other butted steel tubing. Maby just use your TekTro Xtra long reach brakes and loose the brazons, like for the VOMixte.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13145289987194148352009-12-03T14:21:46.358-05:002009-12-03T14:21:46.358-05:00@Jeronimo:
"What would separate a 650b Campe...@Jeronimo:<br /><br />"What would separate a 650b Camper from a Rivendell Bombadil?"<br /><br /><br />What would separate a 26" Camper from a Surly LHT?"<br /><br />Neither of those bikes are French-style, low trail designs. This is an example of a "proper" campeur: http://www.vintagebicyclepress.com/images/CascadeBlewett.jpg -- note the mixte-style lateral stays for increased strength and rigidity under a full camping load.jim ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02161517903295268167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59683975536392619752009-12-03T13:55:40.064-05:002009-12-03T13:55:40.064-05:00VO bikes are very different from a Surly or even a...VO bikes are very different from a Surly or even a Riv. The geometry and details are based on French custom bikes built during the "golden age". The latter are basically 1980's Japanese touring bikes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-33488570541929648202009-12-03T13:48:14.969-05:002009-12-03T13:48:14.969-05:00I like the camper bike idea, but:
What would sepa...I like the camper bike idea, but:<br /><br />What would separate a 650b Camper from a Rivendell Bombadil?<br /><br />What would separate a 26" Camper from a Surly LHT?jeronimonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20885208520815344742009-12-02T12:18:56.244-05:002009-12-02T12:18:56.244-05:00All you guys clamoring for a 700C Polyvalent in la...All you guys clamoring for a 700C Polyvalent in large sizes just don't get it -- big tires, flexible frames, and low trail don't work well together. Have you ever seen a French porteur built for wide 700C tires? No. Have you ever seen a French randonneuse with wide 700C tires? NO. There is absolutely no reason (aside from misguided aesthetics) why 650B wheels won't work on a larger frame. And it probably won't be as prone to shimmy, either.jim ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02161517903295268167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-75150072216211117322009-12-02T11:33:20.598-05:002009-12-02T11:33:20.598-05:00As someone who is 6'4" and constantly dis...As someone who is 6'4" and constantly dismayed at how many bike models aren't made in frame sizes that will fit me, I vote for a 700c version of the Polyvalent for larger sized frames. Clearance for tires up to 37 mm with fenders would also be great!Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42624290026080908572009-12-01T17:49:24.467-05:002009-12-01T17:49:24.467-05:00My 61cm Miyata 610 touring frame is too small. Id ...My 61cm Miyata 610 touring frame is too small. Id like to see a lugged 700c camping/touring frame in 63-64cm (c-c) at an affordable price....My legs are too long for 650b:(Brandonneurhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13782755618549507116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41159669488451555442009-11-30T19:19:51.817-05:002009-11-30T19:19:51.817-05:00fixed rando sounds gread. long hoiz dropouts for f...fixed rando sounds gread. long hoiz dropouts for fixed/IGH use.<br /><br />also, 700c polyvalent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-32516681975322261102009-11-30T13:29:42.473-05:002009-11-30T13:29:42.473-05:00I am willing to spend more for a non TIG pass hunt...I am willing to spend more for a non TIG pass hunter. <br /><br />Would also be nice that you made smaller sizes 650B for us shortiesveloChinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04326441652714599416noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80397892977852228552009-11-30T12:43:36.103-05:002009-11-30T12:43:36.103-05:00Have you guys seen the recent Bruce Gordon touring...Have you guys seen the recent Bruce Gordon touring frame set with racks and stem? Its a Taiwanese TIG welded frame set, and I think the racks are made by Bruce Gordon.<br /><br />http://bgcycles.com/BasicLoadedTouring.html<br /><br />Just thought you would be interested in light of offering a 650b camping bike with a custom rack set.scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01982965226071624365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-74053107282636517742009-11-30T09:12:12.497-05:002009-11-30T09:12:12.497-05:00I'd be more interested the size range of the m...I'd be more interested the size range of the models you know have expanded than in having a new model. Particularly, I'd like to see the polyvalent line expanded--or maybe contracted is the right word, down to 46 cm or so. That's one of the big advantages of 650's is that you can make small frame sizes without compromise on geometry or toe-clip overlap. I'd be interested in one of those for a small friend. From the comments it also sounds like expanding the rando line up one size would make sense, though the 63 would fit me.<br /><br />It would also make sense to have the mixte line include smaller size, 650 wheel models.<br /><br />For new frames lines, it makes sense to use 26 or 650 on smaller sizes, 650 or 700 on bigger ones.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18076080703641893710noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1860408836928418302009-11-29T13:04:57.169-05:002009-11-29T13:04:57.169-05:00Anon Said:
"And for the guy who desperately n...Anon Said:<br />"And for the guy who desperately needs to get his parts over a sloping top tube so he can ride in snow, mud or whatever (or is it really only ridden on living room carpet?), next time you buy a bike, consider getting a level top tube frame of the right size."<br /><br />Hmm. Guess that pro fit I paid for didn't really work out. Countless brevets and centuries and solo rides through the mountains later...<br /><br />Sure, I'll take the advice of someone on the interwebs. Move bikes from living room to snow / ice / mud. Check. Trade in for small frame that needs really long stem so I can mount / dismount comfortable per your suggestion. Check. Now what?<br /><br />As I stated before - it is not about getting on or off the bike. Its about handling the bike when semi loaded, on rough surfaces, surfaces that are not predictable, without bodily contortions.<br /><br />But, have at it. There is no 1 bike for everyone. A dropped TT is a useful thing on a bike, despite what the classics show us, and despite what some folks one on the interwebs thinks.<br /><br />Cheers. RYOR. YMMV. Etc. Etc.mikehttp://www.littlecirclesvt.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6127059800865076512009-11-29T10:29:58.182-05:002009-11-29T10:29:58.182-05:00Make sure those swift Aduprax cranks fit any frame...Make sure those swift Aduprax cranks fit any frames under consideration, I agree with the posting I was reading in the original blog entry http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2008/04/new-vo-crank.html and Handy is right, the feel of steel pedals rolling is great, it's like going through butter, I've always liked the whole drivetrain on this bike I have starting with the Solida cottered cranks and Huret derailleurs and likewise, they've gone through some tough weather and look fine. I wonder when we will see those cranks again. Did they sell out or what? That wasn't that long ago.TSVDPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08799437719101782398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15357679713665528002009-11-28T13:08:35.585-05:002009-11-28T13:08:35.585-05:00A camper bike, please. In the style of the LHT, b...A camper bike, please. In the style of the LHT, but with lugs. 26" wheels, however vulgar, are really vastly easier to find than 650B in my neighborhood.<br /><br />And if you make a lugged camper, you'd naturally need lugged racks:<br />http://racknroll.blogspot.com/2009/02/getting-closer.htmlUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15726930119589823848noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-9636089746514697552009-11-27T23:55:36.508-05:002009-11-27T23:55:36.508-05:00Here's another vote for a 650b camper.
LUGGED!...Here's another vote for a 650b camper.<br />LUGGED! and able to take a 42c tire. I think you could get the proper racks made, you have so far, just make it a frame/fork/rack package and of course, present the designs to me before hand for approval!;) <br /><br />Forget the vintage racer remake, it ain't, and lots of them 531 gems around if one only looks. <br /><br />I also like the Fixie Rando but please use real drop outs and not track ends! Fenders don't like track ends!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16569345769256635985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84424016640198606412009-11-27T12:45:53.792-05:002009-11-27T12:45:53.792-05:00650B/650A size - or 26" with room for fat fra...650B/650A size - or 26" with room for fat frank tires - heavy duty camping/tourist bike something like the Raleigh Tourist that can have double top tubes or the half-moon shaped top tube you see on the ladies model - set up for a VO full chaincase. <br /><br />Chromed lugs and dropouts. Powdercoated. Any color, as long as it's black. <br /><br />Build it around the Steceo Racks used on dutch/danish and old english bikes that are strong enough to carry passengers - like the "pick-up" Steceo racks that slide into the downtube slots, etc.<br /><br />Drum brakes, like the SRAM iBrake system, with a SRAM 3 speed or 5 speed internal gear hub.lee.watkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00650449275019133632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-82174428082176805452009-11-27T07:49:56.364-05:002009-11-27T07:49:56.364-05:00If 650B can qualify, how about 27 inch. I regularl...If 650B can qualify, how about 27 inch. I regularly ride an 80's lugged steel tourer with 27 inch wheels. I've grown to love the big wheels with 1-1/2 inch wide tires, and the long wheelbase. So smooth and stable.<br /><br />Lugged or nicely-brazed yes. Welding may have become acceptable in the cycling world, but it's still crude construction. Leave the welding to the cheap bike companies. <br /><br />And for the guy who desperately needs to get his parts over a sloping top tube so he can ride in snow, mud or whatever (or is it really only ridden on living room carpet?), next time you buy a bike, consider getting a level top tube frame of the right size.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-61051184083038553002009-11-26T20:42:15.700-05:002009-11-26T20:42:15.700-05:00650 Camper please!!!650 Camper please!!!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17786596543357928345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42427299854203895262009-11-25T21:20:42.521-05:002009-11-25T21:20:42.521-05:00I really don't like TIGed frames that much, al...I really don't like TIGed frames that much, although I understand the cost savings. I miss the semi-custom frames. I'd like to see an all-around touring bike with lots of brazeons and vertical DOs that could be configured as tourer/ commuter/ randonneur/ camper/ pass hunter. 650B or 700C wheels, lugged or fillet brazed frame<br /><br />Jerry Moosjerrymoosnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88705337270424007472009-11-25T20:51:30.729-05:002009-11-25T20:51:30.729-05:00A proper child's bicycle.A proper child's bicycle.Andynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-81642548893438085582009-11-25T12:40:52.089-05:002009-11-25T12:40:52.089-05:00Ian:
Thanks for strring me straight. Yes, the Pa...Ian:<br /><br />Thanks for strring me straight. Yes, the Pass Hunter sounds perfect. Ask the man who owns one, I would say, and it sounds like you think yours is just peachy.Dale Brighamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18316809807316122300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24344699848036140732009-11-25T12:28:32.990-05:002009-11-25T12:28:32.990-05:00CK, we love you for creating unique, affordable, h...CK, we love you for creating unique, affordable, historically aware bikes to fill holes in the market, and we know you want to sell these bikes, so this is a no-brainer: <br /><br />650B cyclotouriste with camp/tour DNA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com