tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post7545601800060591504..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Bertin C37 Mixte, High Performance in ComfortVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-87220624336097633732012-12-01T11:25:30.679-05:002012-12-01T11:25:30.679-05:00As this has the Hans Ohrt sticker with Beverly Hil...As this has the Hans Ohrt sticker with Beverly Hills and no other locations it would be from prior to 1972. They purchased a shop on La Cienega near Pico in Los Angeles, and in 1973 had opened a shop in Westwood Village near UCLA. The only location still a bike shop is the Westwood Village store, now a Helen's Cyclery.<br />The Mixtie C-37's were almost all special order, sometimes an additional bike was ordered for stock.<br />My first road bike was a C-37. Pretty effectively appointed having just read the Complete Book of Cycling by Sloane. Lots of saving to buy that bike. $310. in 1972.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62565778405893296622012-12-01T00:24:47.180-05:002012-12-01T00:24:47.180-05:00NO PAINTING! I have a Bertin C37 that I had repain...NO PAINTING! I have a Bertin C37 that I had repainted about five years ago and now regret doing that. The repaint was excellent but I realize too late that it was the wrong thing to do. My Bertin C37 is a full 531 with Campagnolo dropouts and fork ends and rather fancy lugs. It had the lousy French paint job and no braze- ons. I wish that I would have kept it that way.<br />Donhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09710715433883677736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53141743041907564192012-11-30T13:48:35.108-05:002012-11-30T13:48:35.108-05:00If you restore it you will have a mistress instead...If you restore it you will have a mistress instead of a bike, you will not use it as it was intended, only stroke it. Clean it, make it functional, pedal it often, be happy.peddalheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10663372003406988874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84001225803839388882012-11-30T06:41:36.362-05:002012-11-30T06:41:36.362-05:00Yes please, my vote is for VO to produce a mixte f...Yes please, my vote is for VO to produce a mixte frame, great idea, small please, Yes, leave paint on this one, as is, would seem criminal to repaint. Love the Hans Ohr logotype, great typography and design. Perhaps you could post another pic of it, so we can see it better?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-85272067737904091592012-11-29T09:17:06.431-05:002012-11-29T09:17:06.431-05:00Sounds like I should leave the bike as is.
John ...Sounds like I should leave the bike as is. <br /><br />John Hanson - Chainrings are 49/45. I actually love a half-step for commuting. I ride a 52/46 daily with a medium range cassette.<br /><br />Julie C. - Great find with the C31. Shoot us some pics once its done.<br /><br />Anon 10:29 - You're right, the stem is cast. <br /><br />Bendo - The hubs will be unlaced since the tension is low anyway. They will clean up really well. Curtis Odom mentions how this first interest with hubs was when he found an old Campy wheel. I think the hub picture is appropriate. http://goo.gl/hKBjKVeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-26512505129589505772012-11-28T13:02:15.581-05:002012-11-28T13:02:15.581-05:00I would suggest a 3 step paint clean and wax proce...I would suggest a 3 step paint clean and wax process like the one Mequiars makes then you not only preserve the patina but protect it. You guys make a nice classic mixte for a while are you bringing it back?RoadieRyanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15900109046198641775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84633656267982098692012-11-28T11:16:03.272-05:002012-11-28T11:16:03.272-05:00Well, if it's an exhibition piece, patina is t...Well, if it's an exhibition piece, patina is the way to go. On the other hand, if it's a BICYCLE, I'd repaint it.<br /><br />I remember years ago on a woodworking forum, a woman asked about refinishing a nicely musical but otherwise undistinguished piano that had gotten ugly with the years. The forum jumped down her throat, arguing that refinishing a piano "destroyed its value."<br /><br />OK. Assuming it has value as an antique, that's true. If its value is something other than appearance, well. that's another matter.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-35007506983288203392012-11-28T10:29:59.386-05:002012-11-28T10:29:59.386-05:00From my 40+ years as an adult cycling I don't ... From my 40+ years as an adult cycling I don't think that the handlebar stem was pantographed but the relief in the stem is the result of the manufacturing process (i.e. casting).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-566909342013121722012-11-28T06:12:14.468-05:002012-11-28T06:12:14.468-05:00Keep the patina! A really thorough clean and (care...Keep the patina! A really thorough clean and (careful) polish will have it looking stunning again. If it were mine I'd put the effort into things like unlacing the wheels to completely clean the hubs.<br /><br />What a bike. Love the bars. bBendohttp://feelofsteel.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22878741830802531582012-11-27T21:11:15.293-05:002012-11-27T21:11:15.293-05:00Clean it, brass wool the chrome, Simichrome the al...Clean it, brass wool the chrome, Simichrome the aluminum, subtle paint touch-up, ride it. Very cool bicycle. Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6409200779293254622012-11-27T18:40:17.064-05:002012-11-27T18:40:17.064-05:00I agree with all who say leave the paint alone. I...I agree with all who say leave the paint alone. I have that exact stem, which came on a mongrel 70's Miyata project. And speaking of mixtes: when is VO going to offer a mixte frame again? Something in 60 cm please.John Ihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13800598064959280338noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-52185859282447264622012-11-27T18:24:54.162-05:002012-11-27T18:24:54.162-05:00Leave that paint alone!Leave that paint alone!Matthew https://www.blogger.com/profile/07325341518527557093noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63813583646137551812012-11-27T18:02:46.604-05:002012-11-27T18:02:46.604-05:00Beautiful. Elegant. Stunning.
I vote for leaving t...Beautiful. Elegant. Stunning.<br />I vote for leaving the frame as is. I'm curious to see how those Campy hubs clean up, though.MT cyclisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451590809473759574noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63631658117027860402012-11-27T17:56:28.564-05:002012-11-27T17:56:28.564-05:00Patina! It looks better than my 2009 commuter, I&#...Patina! It looks better than my 2009 commuter, I'm ashamed to say.Rudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13258275966350920842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-52077766960201441432012-11-27T17:52:20.354-05:002012-11-27T17:52:20.354-05:00Doesn't Adrian already have a mixte?Doesn't Adrian already have a mixte?My gay Jesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09098591659546953501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-83915817112331650842012-11-27T17:36:46.140-05:002012-11-27T17:36:46.140-05:00Stay away from the paint! Clean it, and oil it. Th...Stay away from the paint! Clean it, and oil it. That's it, please.Pimhttp://www.pimrakers.nlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-67631482261877604652012-11-27T17:36:19.307-05:002012-11-27T17:36:19.307-05:00Lots of wax! glad to see a mixte with nice parts o...Lots of wax! glad to see a mixte with nice parts on it, so many are embarrassing BSOs. Beautiful!Jofus Braylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727963777313257534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20610323292814834642012-11-27T17:35:16.106-05:002012-11-27T17:35:16.106-05:00Lots of wax! it's beautiful! Glad to see a mix...Lots of wax! it's beautiful! Glad to see a mixte with good parts on it, nearly all the ones I've seen are embarrassments.Jofus Braylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16727963777313257534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80051926673558868292012-11-27T17:18:40.266-05:002012-11-27T17:18:40.266-05:00Repainting would be criminal! especially on a bike...Repainting would be criminal! especially on a bike that rare, sure there is a few spots like on the fork, but it just adds to the character which can not be faked!Yann G.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13946197159361678841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11289040252252621902012-11-27T17:14:04.790-05:002012-11-27T17:14:04.790-05:00Don't paint!Don't paint!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-49960107423703756022012-11-27T17:09:00.329-05:002012-11-27T17:09:00.329-05:00Patina.Patina.reverend dickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00090415465883988497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78599006979791174692012-11-27T16:57:09.638-05:002012-11-27T16:57:09.638-05:00Just this May I bought a late 70's/early 80...Just this May I bought a late 70's/early 80's Bertin mixte off of Craigslist her in Seattle. I payed $125 for it and apparently got a great deal! Jim at the Bertin blog thinks it's a C31 touring model. I've been stopped so many times by people asking about the Bertin brand, having never heard of it. I'm slowly working on it, and I want to turn it into a French style city bike. I definitely have my eye on the new Grand Cru Plume Alaire chainguard!Julie C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00607168454907407213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-43171872389814197992012-11-27T16:07:04.757-05:002012-11-27T16:07:04.757-05:00Don't paint it.
The chainrings are probably ...Don't paint it. <br /><br />The chainrings are probably 48/44 or thereabouts. The outer ring could not be a 43 considering the cranks BCD. Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45353904619602130562012-11-27T16:05:16.886-05:002012-11-27T16:05:16.886-05:00Patina, definitely.Patina, definitely.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54290495808691705732012-11-27T15:56:25.754-05:002012-11-27T15:56:25.754-05:00It looks like the outer chainring is stamped 43, i...It looks like the outer chainring is stamped 43, is that right? What about the inner? Whatever it is, this seems super-sensible for city riding, and I wish to have it (Campag NR, of course) for one of my bikes. Would redefine my short cage NR derailleur. John Hansonhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hansonnoreply@blogger.com