tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post7068191352194080022..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Production Rando Frame UpdateVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78631010493461385382009-07-08T16:52:15.513-04:002009-07-08T16:52:15.513-04:00Josef says,
Very nice bike - I am waiting until t...Josef says,<br /><br />Very nice bike - I am waiting until the fotos with fenders are in the blog. <br />What size of Grand Bois tires are mounted on the pictured bike? ThanxAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48246891578137925252009-07-05T06:42:42.003-04:002009-07-05T06:42:42.003-04:00Surly does not use OS tubing on their Pacer. Their...Surly does not use OS tubing on their Pacer. Their site states this and I just finished building one this week for my partner. <br /><br />Standard 28.6 fer sher.<br /><br />I think that Surly makes pretty good stuff for everyday action but they are not the measure of all things cycling :)jimmynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-33492197771622500442009-06-10T17:17:19.401-04:002009-06-10T17:17:19.401-04:0063cm! Thank you! But man, you just complicated my ...63cm! Thank you! But man, you just complicated my life... in a good way.leaf slayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903511242335325605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-81925181312651369692009-06-09T14:42:28.212-04:002009-06-09T14:42:28.212-04:00The crank is a modern TA.
The sizes will be 51-6...The crank is a modern TA. <br /><br />The sizes will be 51-63cm.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62380418537662747252009-06-09T09:44:57.426-04:002009-06-09T09:44:57.426-04:00What sizes will these come in? Please say there...What sizes will these come in? Please say there'll be one in 63cm.leaf slayerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14903511242335325605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-77600383813131215202009-06-03T14:41:07.441-04:002009-06-03T14:41:07.441-04:00What crank is that?What crank is that?jeromenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-10726433680165032192009-04-28T17:18:00.000-04:002009-04-28T17:18:00.000-04:00SLap guards would be relatively easy to make out o...SLap guards would be relatively easy to make out of leather, right?<br />MBAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28977637117464953402009-04-28T09:58:00.000-04:002009-04-28T09:58:00.000-04:00There is no official weight limit and if there was...There is no official weight limit and if there was it would depend on the frame size. The smaller sizes use lighter tubing. But I would suggest a frame with oversize tubing for particularly heavy folks.<br /><br />We do have slapguards in stock for these frames.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-67414719182768718562009-04-27T23:18:00.000-04:002009-04-27T23:18:00.000-04:00Beautiful bike, Chris. You mentioned that this bi...Beautiful bike, Chris. You mentioned that this bike is not suitable for loaded touring, but what would you peg as the upper weight limit? e.i. is this bike suitable for clydes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16850138469823214232009-04-27T11:47:00.000-04:002009-04-27T11:47:00.000-04:00Noting that this bike has the little prongs on the...Noting that this bike has the little prongs on the chainstay for holding the rubber slap guard: will those items be re-introduced? Seems like a neat detail although I've never seen such a rig in person.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2082633228356529902009-04-26T19:14:00.000-04:002009-04-26T19:14:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Lawrence riddlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51901355134533485382009-04-25T06:34:00.000-04:002009-04-25T06:34:00.000-04:00Larry: Don't just say someone is wrong. You have ...Larry: Don't just say someone is wrong. You have the bike, provide the tube diameters. <br /><br />Dismissing lugs as cosmetic smacks of trite envy to me.Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53746999217871656772009-04-25T02:23:00.000-04:002009-04-25T02:23:00.000-04:00In the previous post on this frame, there was a lo...In the previous post on this frame, there was a lot of chatter about the headtube extension. Was there ever a final decision on whether to keep or remove this?robatsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07641711964135698976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11890740645486543612009-04-25T00:46:00.000-04:002009-04-25T00:46:00.000-04:00Huh, that's interesting. The CrossCheck and LHT a...Huh, that's interesting. The CrossCheck and LHT are certainly OS, as is the KM, of course. Not sure about the Steamroller, though.Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-29781592979738282122009-04-25T00:13:00.000-04:002009-04-25T00:13:00.000-04:00mgl, you are wrong.mgl, you are wrong.Larry Riddlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25848489123421114022009-04-24T20:04:00.000-04:002009-04-24T20:04:00.000-04:00Larry,
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the...Larry,<br /><br />Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Surly does indeed have "standard" OS steel tubing; that is, 28.6mm seat tube and top tube, 31.8mm down tube. <br /><br />Pre-1990s non-OS tubing was 28.6mm seat tube and down tube, 25.4mm top tube.<br /><br />The differences may not appear great, but since resistance to bending is proportional to the cube of diameter, the OS bike is noticeably stiffer--an effect I (and many others) find detracts from the ride.<br /><br />Not sure what you mean by the lugs being cosmetic. They do hold the bike together, after all.<br /><br />Howtostretch, I believe the rando price is coming in around $800.Murrayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12747213382322731103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11412809684666205572009-04-24T19:53:00.000-04:002009-04-24T19:53:00.000-04:00Mike M,
I am sure you were trying to be accurate...Mike M, <br /><br />I am sure you were trying to be accurate in your criticism but the Pacer does not have oversized tubing and the 'lugs' are purely cosmetic on the Rando.Larry Riddlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51208668146855110812009-04-24T18:15:00.000-04:002009-04-24T18:15:00.000-04:00Breezer dropouts make it difficult, if not impossi...Breezer dropouts make it difficult, if not impossible, to use a trainer. Sure, you might not use a trainer for training, but every pro fitter I have been to uses a trainer to hold the bike. Also, the only trailer hitch that will even vaguely work on a Breezer dropout is the BOB. <br /><br />What's that you say? You don't need a trailer? How about the fact that the head of the QR skewer needs to fit <I><B>inside</B></I> the dropout. Doesn't that go against the point of a rando bike? If the skewewr breaks in the middle of 1200K, I don't want to have to hunt around for just the right skewer to fit.Wayne Myerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063867040301476722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-76988979881065739212009-04-24T17:06:00.000-04:002009-04-24T17:06:00.000-04:00Like the frame! I missed the price tho, could som...Like the frame! I missed the price tho, could someone fill me in?howtostretchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217530853178611367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21061665229879925472009-04-24T16:54:00.000-04:002009-04-24T16:54:00.000-04:00Mike, of course. But it is mandatory now whenever...Mike, of course. But it is mandatory now whenever someone shows a bike for sale on line that at least one person show a Surley.<br /><br />If I did not know better, I would think the folks at QBP have someone on the payroll doing this.<br /><br />Otherwise, I guess there are a lot of people here on the internet who if they had their druthers would prefer a common denominator monopoly over healthy competition.Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42401162676398610192009-04-24T12:55:00.000-04:002009-04-24T12:55:00.000-04:00That Pacer frame is a nice inexpensive low-end roa...That Pacer frame is a nice inexpensive low-end road frame, but it's not a competitor to the VO frame. Its not lugged, has high-med trail geometry, has no dedicated front rack, it uses stiff oversize tubing, has no fender braze-ons,etc. That's the sort of frame riders like me will sell to get a rando frame.Mike Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59764282740448785982009-04-24T12:29:00.000-04:002009-04-24T12:29:00.000-04:00Surly Pacer :
http://sweetbike.org/gallery/d/1951...Surly Pacer : <br />http://sweetbike.org/gallery/d/19514-2/pacer+003.JPGLarry Riddlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-57663298120512465522009-04-24T10:47:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:47:00.000-04:00Also, those webbed lugs contribute to aerodynamic ...Also, those webbed lugs contribute to aerodynamic stability at high speeds.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14842668722642821362009-04-24T10:45:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:45:00.000-04:00The rear wheel spacing is 130mm. I think that's st...The rear wheel spacing is 130mm. I think that's still best for a road bike.<br /><br />Long Shen dropouts!Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7884313448343129672009-04-24T10:11:00.000-04:002009-04-24T10:11:00.000-04:00I'm not crazy about the "webbed" lugs. Also, is th...I'm not crazy about the "webbed" lugs. Also, is there any alternative to a socket style dropout? to my eye, they aren't very elegant. Love the tubing spec and most other details.<br />All in all, extremely good work.Garynoreply@blogger.com