tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post6948686084570533360..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Those New Dyno HubsVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51120027875416009012012-03-28T16:49:50.020-04:002012-03-28T16:49:50.020-04:00What ever happened to these? Are they still in the...What ever happened to these? Are they still in the works or is this project dead?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-85701259716447724322011-02-09T19:07:59.753-05:002011-02-09T19:07:59.753-05:00They should add the same feature to a motor-driven...They should add the same feature to a motor-driven electric bicycle wheel.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06851058827002019964noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91344506295556650432011-01-12T18:22:06.797-05:002011-01-12T18:22:06.797-05:00Any update on when these are expected to arrive?Any update on when these are expected to arrive?Erichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10480981438117415642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-87695520537642260402010-10-21T12:58:36.320-04:002010-10-21T12:58:36.320-04:00The clutch is a great feature for long distance ri...The clutch is a great feature for long distance riding where you want to shave off any bit of drag. For my daily commute, a little more drag is not a big deal--I'd opt for a cheaper, more reliable version without the clutch. Perhaps eventually stock a version without the clutch too?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-3224950083489812122010-10-18T10:58:30.546-04:002010-10-18T10:58:30.546-04:00please offer a drum brake version of the fancy new...please offer a drum brake version of the fancy new dyno hub. You see drum brakes make sense for the same exact reason that dyno hubs make sense - they don't slip in the rain, ice, and snow - or when dirty with mud!<br /><br />second, the obvious response by the competition will be to develop an electronically-activated clutch that senses when it is dark. Might as well get one working before someone else does.lee.watkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00650449275019133632noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-66801466377636112552010-10-18T08:29:59.497-04:002010-10-18T08:29:59.497-04:00Reading though the page below a dynamo is describe...Reading though the page below a dynamo is described which sounds similar.<br /><br />http://www.xs4all.nl/~swhs/fiets/tests/verlichting/index_en.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-33673200894656548912010-10-16T14:53:26.930-04:002010-10-16T14:53:26.930-04:00I guess the biggest concern I would have is operat...I guess the biggest concern I would have is operating the clutch from the saddle. Or even accessing the clutch with front low rider panniers. I suppose you also kinda lose the "Senso" function of lamps. It operates basically like a sexy bottle gen. I will probably get one just because it's cool. Most likely for a porteur build without front panniers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64605559415668124192010-10-15T11:47:56.210-04:002010-10-15T11:47:56.210-04:00I like the clutch idea a lot but I'm also not ...I like the clutch idea a lot but I'm also not opposed to my light being on during the day...Better visibility by motorists is always a good thing. Now if it had a "pulse" mode during the day like my moto, SHAZAAM.tjhhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12168109347759222839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11793966750788443642010-10-13T22:53:06.656-04:002010-10-13T22:53:06.656-04:00A bolt on 6 bolt disc version would be a shimano k...A bolt on 6 bolt disc version would be a shimano killer.Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-46868422112471928602010-10-13T13:02:10.706-04:002010-10-13T13:02:10.706-04:00Love the idea of a low-drag, reasonably inexpensiv...Love the idea of a low-drag, reasonably inexpensive dynohub.<br /><br />I'd love to get a B&M, but I can't justify the cost for as little as I ride in the dark these days, and most cheap ones sound like they'd add a ton of drag.<br /><br />So, inexpensive and low drag? perfect.<br /><br />Build one on a nice 700c rim and I'm on it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7237586843721922892010-10-13T12:48:06.457-04:002010-10-13T12:48:06.457-04:00Another vote/hope for disc-brake compatible versio...Another vote/hope for disc-brake compatible version!Andresnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78656860764751498722010-10-13T11:28:12.777-04:002010-10-13T11:28:12.777-04:00I'll add to the call for a disc brake compatib...I'll add to the call for a disc brake compatible model. If you're going to introduce a new and improved design that is unique to the market you should really take advantage of the whole market! <br /><br />I would immediately buy one for my disc equipped touring bike and have, in fact, been waiting to buy a disc compatible dyno hub until I know if you're going to offer one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36619514868672767032010-10-13T11:11:43.214-04:002010-10-13T11:11:43.214-04:00Besides being a bike nut, I've long been a &qu...Besides being a bike nut, I've long been a "flashaholic". Since the introduction of the Cree 1 watt LED emitters, I have been using battery powered lights on my bike because the Cree's are truly superior to any other light emitter in terms of efficiency. I have been waiting patiently for someone to make a dyno-compatible one. Since my single cr123-powered Cree can throw a beam that looks like a motorcycle headlight for a solid hour, I know this dynamo headlight is going to blow people away! You just can't understand until you've used a Cree!Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18196398848488573439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89750268267051844192010-10-13T10:55:38.130-04:002010-10-13T10:55:38.130-04:00All dynamo hubs have more resistance when generati...All dynamo hubs have more resistance when generating power, but there is still some resistance when they are not generating. It is easy to feel this. Even though this level of resistance is lower, it is always present when the wheel is spinning. Cumulatively, it becomes significant.<br /><br />If this hub eliminates the "non-generating" resistance, it must, by simple calculation, be the most efficient design yet, and by a wide margin.Le Cagotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36892640275717795412010-10-13T10:05:50.243-04:002010-10-13T10:05:50.243-04:00The Schmidt SON smaller hub has less drag when the...The Schmidt SON smaller hub has less drag when the light is not running. I think it must have a clutch? These look like the finest dyno hubs around, so I think price will be the determining factor on which hub brand.AJHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07952056691778832750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17041993832423753022010-10-12T19:35:14.713-04:002010-10-12T19:35:14.713-04:00Any chance of a disc compatible model? I know disc...Any chance of a disc compatible model? I know discs aren't very velo-orange like, but some of us use them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2987293452025440862010-10-12T16:20:20.991-04:002010-10-12T16:20:20.991-04:00Can the new hub clutch be controlled by a small re...Can the new hub clutch be controlled by a small remote control lever brazed to the upper fork blade, kinda like the Frenchy builders used to do behind the seat tube on their generator-equipped Randonoose bikes ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13903068510904737302010-10-12T15:36:52.824-04:002010-10-12T15:36:52.824-04:00Will they be available in bot on as well as QR ver...Will they be available in bot on as well as QR versions? I'd be much more interested in a bolt version for a city bike.Ned Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01613322926142958322noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13354444408214645532010-10-12T14:08:07.925-04:002010-10-12T14:08:07.925-04:00I support a wider variety of dyno hubs at various ...I support a wider variety of dyno hubs at various price points, so kudos to VO. Keep up the good work!<br /><br />I cannot feel my SON 20R (i.e. resistance) at any speed, whereas the full size SON hubs could be felt (to be notchy) at low speed. Neither bothers me and the finger spinning the axle test only magnifies what is insignificant.<br /><br />I run both my road bikes on dyno hubs and they're always illuminated, regardless of weather or time of day. There's simply no reason not to, given the high maintenance interval of the german products. A more affordable product might benefit from a clutch to free up the mechanism which could prolong its life...nordic_68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16681928489719451333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-33435709074096644952010-10-12T14:04:26.958-04:002010-10-12T14:04:26.958-04:00Nate, This hub puts out more light for a given amo...Nate, This hub puts out more light for a given amount of human power since you only use the dynamo when you need actually light.<br /><br />Since it is sealed bearing, I assume an overhaul just requires replacing bearing cartridges. Any shop can do that in a few minutes. The hub's clutch is not like a car's clutch that transmits high torque; it's probably a simple mechanical coupler that should be super reliable.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13892299610631915542010-10-12T13:51:18.656-04:002010-10-12T13:51:18.656-04:00The clutch acts as a switch, so no switch on the l...The clutch acts as a switch, so no switch on the light is required, cutting down on complexity.<br /><br />The SON hub does have a little less drag than a Shimano hub, but there is still drag even with the light off. Just try to spin the axle with your fingers and you'll see how much. With these hubs there is virtually no drag with lights off. You'll be able to come to our showroom and spin them-side by-side.<br /><br />Human nature being what it is, there will be folks trying to publicly justify their $250 hubs. No need for that, just buy what you think is best for you.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37020602581931509312010-10-12T13:44:31.490-04:002010-10-12T13:44:31.490-04:00Zero percent of utterly negligible does not a para...Zero percent of utterly negligible does not a paradigm shift make. It will probably be a very nice hub. I'll probably buy one and like it. But, it's going to take either a new, higher power level for the same drag or Schmidt-like absurdly high reliability in a cheaper package to really make the "game" all that different.<br /><br />Other questions that maybe can now be answered without giving away any of the big secrets:<br />1. Is a version equivalent to the SON20s going to be released, or is it going to play by the same German-law-bound rules as most generator hubs for power output with big wheels at low speeds?<br />2. Disc versions?<br />3. Are you going to provide good, clear info on how to maintain/overhaul them? Now that would be game changing IMO.Nate Knutsonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-82758926341108746992010-10-12T13:30:15.975-04:002010-10-12T13:30:15.975-04:00I don't get it.
Why would I want a more mech...I don't get it. <br /><br />Why would I want a more mechanically more complicated dyno hub (clutch, planetary gears) when I can have a simple SON, which adds less drag than a Shimano with lights on, and virtually no drag with lights off?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64038061860406884452010-10-12T12:37:44.934-04:002010-10-12T12:37:44.934-04:00Does the clutch function as the light switch then,...Does the clutch function as the light switch then, with the lights left in an on position? Is the clutch on the hub or is it operated by switch? Would I have to get off the bike to switch it on?Nigel Beardsley Smithnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-68004546717121849662010-10-12T12:18:52.999-04:002010-10-12T12:18:52.999-04:00The only downside I can see is that the clutch mec...The only downside I can see is that the clutch mechanism adds a potential point of failure. The price looks great and I am definitely interested, especially compared with the Shimano hub, which has some moderate drag when switched off. When I get into a new bike next year a dynohub is definitely on the wish list.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com