tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post6801331774670223166..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Production Samples and New BitsVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84069496269587135422008-07-01T15:17:00.000-04:002008-07-01T15:17:00.000-04:00@bruce:you're absolutely right: decent looking lea...@bruce:<BR/><BR/>you're absolutely right: decent looking leather shoes are very hard to come by these days. Watch for Rapha or Velo Orange making a move here . . . or you follow Grant Peterson's advice and just wear Tevas! Marresi still make very good & good looking leather cycling shoes (mod. storica & eroica, no SPD), as does taiwanese firm Exustar (mod. Stelvio). all have been well reviewed here and there. Carnac used to have the Carlit, but it is no longer made. A simple pair of Campers will do in a pinch, if you don't need SPD. <BR/><BR/>cheers, <BR/>AlexAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-10733780288550213662008-06-30T17:38:00.000-04:002008-06-30T17:38:00.000-04:00Looks like good stuff.I echo the comments about th...Looks like good stuff.<BR/><BR/>I echo the comments about the BB: if you spec both cups as adjustable then the chainline can be fine-tuned.<BR/><BR/>Also, I hope the pulleys have some sort of seal/cap over the bearings, as it's been my experience that the rubber seal alone isn't enough. (Look at the old Suntour sealed pulleys, those hold up great.)Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16406828946050994235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80930924846336366312008-06-30T13:27:00.000-04:002008-06-30T13:27:00.000-04:00BoronMost likely an alloying element in another. ...<A HREF="http://www.theodoregray.com/PeriodicTable/Elements/005/index.s7.html" REL="nofollow">Boron</A><BR/><BR/>Most likely an alloying element in another. From wiki:<BR/><BR/><I>At a lesser degree, certain boronized (or borided) metals and alloys, through means of ion implantation or only ion beam deposition of Boron ions, show a spectacular increase in surface resistance and microhardness</I><BR/><BR/>It is either a iron-boron (common in U-locks) or aluminum boron?keithwwalkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11808096138218041326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6678532702111263952008-06-30T06:44:00.000-04:002008-06-30T06:44:00.000-04:00The BB axle is almost certainly boron-steel, not s...The BB axle is almost certainly boron-steel, not straight boron. Boron is added to steel for hardening purposes in the same way that other elements are added to steels for their inherent properties ( such as chromium for corrosion-resistance). <BR/><BR/>There have been similar BB axles on the market, particularly in the early 90s "heyday" of CNC-machined MTB components.GhostRiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09987949431503645433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34339422173415412812008-06-29T23:09:00.000-04:002008-06-29T23:09:00.000-04:00I'd also like to hear more about the boron applica...I'd also like to hear more about the boron application in the bottom bracket spindle. Is this a metal matrix composite (MMC)? What are the benefits, tradeoffs?nordic_68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16681928489719451333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-70388771806144142112008-06-29T11:35:00.000-04:002008-06-29T11:35:00.000-04:00High quality jockey wheels in orange = excellent i...High quality jockey wheels in orange = excellent idea!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-79094603731096713732008-06-29T00:46:00.000-04:002008-06-29T00:46:00.000-04:00I'm with Gunnar. I don't want to call attention t...I'm with Gunnar. I don't want to call attention to my jockey wheels. Also, not all of us keep our bikes perfectly clean all the time, and that's really going to show on colored wheels. It looks like a great product, though.Ian Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14721391514711042385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47697296018893650862008-06-29T00:24:00.000-04:002008-06-29T00:24:00.000-04:00Resist the temptation to spec red jockey wheels. ...Resist the temptation to spec red jockey wheels. Black or gray are good.Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-55165479831846928412008-06-28T15:31:00.000-04:002008-06-28T15:31:00.000-04:00Fantastic stuff. Your best effort to date. Kudos...Fantastic stuff. Your best effort to date. Kudos for taking this on, finding market opportunities and getting high quality stuff made. Awesome! <BR/><BR/>Mark Petry<BR/>Bainbridge Island, WAmpetry912https://www.blogger.com/profile/02434530239246909594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1274250034265867162008-06-28T10:48:00.000-04:002008-06-28T10:48:00.000-04:00could the bottom brackets be made without the coll...could the bottom brackets be made without the collar on one of the retaining rings so the BB could be adjusted similar to a Phil?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-81955035628867551442008-06-27T19:36:00.000-04:002008-06-27T19:36:00.000-04:00Fantastic looking stuff! If you have time, I'm qui...Fantastic looking stuff! If you have time, I'm quite curious as to what "very high-quality" and "super quality" and "among the best available" really mean. Are we talking about how precisely the races are ground and the quality of the alloys used? What are we comparing against, and is it hard numbers or a more general "feeling" of quality? I understand that at some point increasing precision does nothing for what I can actually sense as a person, just more curious because manufacturers always talk about these things without any references. I'd love to hear about the process of getting these produced from your perspective.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-57071992266638791072008-06-27T14:53:00.000-04:002008-06-27T14:53:00.000-04:00Chris, What did we do without you?PrestonChris,<BR/> What did we do without you?<BR/>PrestonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2693844395095627192008-06-27T13:47:00.000-04:002008-06-27T13:47:00.000-04:00while you say the new jockey wheels are 10 speed c...while you say the new jockey wheels are 10 speed compatible, are they the large jockey wheel size like the new shimano have, or are they the smaller jockey wheel size like campagnolo has?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15647656201444749592008-06-27T13:40:00.000-04:002008-06-27T13:40:00.000-04:00Bruce a dit...."p.s. The VO fenders are an incredi...Bruce a dit....<BR/>"p.s. The VO fenders are an incredible value - nicely made with top notch fasteners."<BR/><BR/>+1! Love mine.K Matthiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10302994067650991669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91952750768854234122008-06-27T13:13:00.000-04:002008-06-27T13:13:00.000-04:00Hey Chris,I too say it all looks good! Keep it up...Hey Chris,<BR/>I too say it all looks good! Keep it up buddy!!<BR/><BR/>A product you may have considered, and totally lacking in today's offerings, is old style all leather cycling shoes. A cleatless Touring style, complete with heels, would be awesome. Of course, an inventory nightmare.<BR/><BR/>Bruce<BR/>p.s. The VO fenders are an incredible value - nicely made with top notch fasteners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16965753177752606342008-06-27T13:05:00.000-04:002008-06-27T13:05:00.000-04:00We will only have JIS British BBs to start. We are...We will only have JIS British BBs to start. We are concentrating on BB for our bikes and for the cranks we sell.<BR/><BR/>There will be a threadless 1-1/8" headset.<BR/><BR/>The jockey wheels will be 10-spd compatible.<BR/><BR/>Toxonix, I don't understand why you have trouble with alloy BB cups, unless you repeatedly install and remove them. I just install the bottom bracket and forget about it; the cups never move.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-44529717978690806832008-06-27T12:38:00.000-04:002008-06-27T12:38:00.000-04:00I wholeheartedly second Kevan's request for a 102 ...I wholeheartedly second Kevan's request for a 102 ISO BB for Chorus/Record, in both Italian and English threading, if possible.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07606360749976387700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-31723410619655341992008-06-27T11:49:00.000-04:002008-06-27T11:49:00.000-04:00Chris - Everything looks great. Kudos for bringin...Chris - <BR/><BR/>Everything looks great. Kudos for bringing out new products. Just a few questions/comments:<BR/><BR/>1) Headsets: you mentioned a 1-1/8" version. Is it safe to assume that's threadless?<BR/><BR/>2) Bottom brackets: please, please, please offer a 102mm ISO option for the Chorus/Record people. Phil is expensive, Campy is too expensive for what it is, and Token is just questionable. Can we assume both English and Italian cups? And what exactly is a 'boron' spindle?<BR/><BR/>3) Jockey wheels: will the Grand Cru be 10 speed compatible? Is the upper pulley 'floating' ala Shimano? Those ribs look like crud catchers to me... Although the red is nice, for that faux-ceramic look ;-)Kevanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18203779840784075355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89995672362282973142008-06-27T11:46:00.000-04:002008-06-27T11:46:00.000-04:00Alloy cups are the downfall of every bottom bracke...Alloy cups are the downfall of every bottom bracket I've ever had. Stainless cups should be more expensive to produce as it's more expensive material and a pain in the butt to machine compared to aluminum.<BR/>It would be worth it to have bb cups that didn't disintegrate after a few seasons of abuse.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07983515525306244444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45081114242293734912008-06-27T11:24:00.000-04:002008-06-27T11:24:00.000-04:00They will be available in all common lengths, incl...They will be available in all common lengths, including those for TA cranks. The prices are still hard to determine, at least for me. With up-charges for bearings, logos, extra polishing, hollow axle, etc, I may have lost track. But they will cost than that what's out there now of similar quality.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-748835895932209222008-06-27T11:20:00.000-04:002008-06-27T11:20:00.000-04:00Chris, those are great additions to your offerings...Chris, those are great additions to your offerings! I'm very interested in the bottom brackets as decent quality square taper stuff is getting harder (and pricier) to find. I'll be ordering some new jockey wheels.<BR/><BR/>Cheers!<BR/>KarlK Matthiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10302994067650991669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51394169235524933742008-06-27T11:07:00.000-04:002008-06-27T11:07:00.000-04:00Looks great Chris. Do you have an approximate pri...Looks great Chris. Do you have an approximate price for the BB and HS? Is the BB going to be available in the proper length for a TA Cyclotourist double?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com