tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post6385990600126965093..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Paper or Plastic? Velo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-3733954684146846752017-10-05T08:25:33.926-04:002017-10-05T08:25:33.926-04:00Maps and cue sheets don't need batteries.Maps and cue sheets don't need batteries.mike w.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10317710564489321690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51534435764826451832017-10-01T20:29:35.331-04:002017-10-01T20:29:35.331-04:00I may be a tribe of one. I have a dumb phone and a...I may be a tribe of one. I have a dumb phone and a GPS in my car. My handlebars have a light, a bell and a cupholder. If I need a map I bulldog clip it to a cable, in a ziplock bag if weather is expected to be adverse. I enjoy riding free of tech.George Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08733839584054651365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-3949460202575347032017-09-28T18:28:55.297-04:002017-09-28T18:28:55.297-04:00I also use paper cue sheets and a road map for tou...I also use paper cue sheets and a road map for touring. I do not want a GPS!Rod Bruckdorfernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37435149929156817832017-09-26T19:31:17.114-04:002017-09-26T19:31:17.114-04:00Very nice write up
I use the paper cues. This is...Very nice write up<br /><br />I use the paper cues. This is why I bought your Campagne bag , for the map case. <br /><br />The big advancement was the reliable cyclo-computers showing accurate distance travelled.<br /><br />John Hawrylak<br />Woodstown NJUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07253714693928008888noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-72700740485572167202017-09-20T23:33:11.699-04:002017-09-20T23:33:11.699-04:00I'm an old coot, and when I am riding it is ju...I'm an old coot, and when I am riding it is just to be out on the road, not part of an organized event. I prefer not to be distracted by gadgets and navigation devices. A decent paper map, some water and food is really all it takes. I like to be surprised by discovery...Kim Isaacsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02911514418209272326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-44838718617066841772017-09-20T05:25:43.268-04:002017-09-20T05:25:43.268-04:00I like the feel of a fountain pen and prefer a sty...I like the feel of a fountain pen and prefer a stylus on a touch screen.<br /> When I first started riding brevets I was concerned the senior and experienced riders had neither gps or paper. It didn't take long to realise these experienced riders knew all the roads and routes from memory. Unfortunately for me I wasn't able to stay with them and found myself in a peloton of one. My navigation skills with paper resulted in bonus extra riding so I ventured into electronic. I still had extra distances due to incorrect inputs, lack of knowledge and electronic failures due to battery life or incorrect button pressing, like when you finish and press the pause button only to see the message "ride started" (urgh). <br />Several years later I'm no faster but I'm better with the electronic things, know some routes, but always carry an always visible route sheet.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18108764902181775686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45476845779280761172017-09-20T05:07:23.004-04:002017-09-20T05:07:23.004-04:00Personally, I ride to get away from all that noise...Personally, I ride to get away from all that noise. Out the C&O about a mile west of town,<br />(Hancock MD), the infernal device will say "service unavailable" and I can finally start to unwind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6011115554370698932017-09-19T22:44:36.900-04:002017-09-19T22:44:36.900-04:00From a slightly different point of view, I was try...From a slightly different point of view, I was trying to find a hotel in a skiing village in southern Switzerland several years ago. We had rented a sat-nav from the hire car shop, proudly labeled the "NEVERLOST." As we switchbacked up the mountain, the gadget kept saying "Turn left . . . recalculating," and "Turn right . . . recalculating." There were no roads, streets, or lanes visible, but there were animal tracks going much more steeply up the hill. Never forget that an electronic device is only as good as its program code and the data it's given. We finally found the hotel and had a great dinner there as well. Paper, plastic, or semi-conductor . . .John Freyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12277564090364964525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16715294235816490432017-09-19T21:29:41.612-04:002017-09-19T21:29:41.612-04:00There is something elegant about a well written cu...There is something elegant about a well written cue sheet with all its abbreviations and annotations. The person who designed the route is coaching you through it. But making a good cue sheet is very time consuming. I've been using and making cue sheets for a few years. I am seriously considering getting a GPS unit for short tours, especially in state forests with many unmarked roads. For brevets, I would put the GPS unit in my bag and only refer to it as necessary.jefehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02592604916786476865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45832526137871996722017-09-19T16:12:29.751-04:002017-09-19T16:12:29.751-04:00Gps ftwGps ftwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-67190900056148077092017-09-19T15:59:56.583-04:002017-09-19T15:59:56.583-04:00I find it interesting how much more dangerous it i...I find it interesting how much more dangerous it is to use paper maps compared to the new breed of text to voice commands. I like RWGPS because I'm able to navigate easily without looking down so often. Inevitably I do occasionally look down at the map to verify the distance to the next turn but most of the time I love turn by turn audio navigation that allows me to keep an eye on the road instead of veering left or right while trying to find my spot on a spreadsheet.<br />Andy Squirrelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11109235775289931572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22828780605433363492017-09-19T14:44:22.236-04:002017-09-19T14:44:22.236-04:00I've done both, depending on my goal. If I'...I've done both, depending on my goal. If I'm touring and I want to concentrate on enjoying the outdoors, watching the scenery, keeping an eye out for a good photograph, and talking with my companions, I'll use a GPS with the track plotted on it, so I don't need to think about navigation.<br /><br />If I'm in an organized event (which happens about once a year) I'll try to get by with cue sheet and map. Last month I did the 100K "mystery route" at D2R2. Now, as a local, I already knew many of the roads, but it was still fun to navigate with a cue sheet and to figure out how to deal with minor discrepancies. Similarly, I will try to avoid GPS when driving new places, except for the final few miles to a precise destination.<br /><br />Like Jean-François, I like a well-prepared cue sheet that indicates dangers, specifies the kind of intersection, and points out interesting sights. A few of the D2R2 cue sheets include notes such as "Cattle often in road." You can't get that from a computer!Brian W. Ogilviehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05045133494402037781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91343370756475121782017-09-19T13:22:49.057-04:002017-09-19T13:22:49.057-04:00I print out the cue-sheets from ridewithgps. I fi...I print out the cue-sheets from ridewithgps. I find binder clips are a great way to attach the sheet-within-ziplock to my shifter cables so I can see the sheet while riding.<br /><br />I probably wouldn't sign up for a ride that only provided digital routes, unless it was reasonably easy (& free) to dump them to a normal table format.<br /><br />I also did some BC Randonneur rides and I very much appreciated the annotations, like railroad track warnings, easily-missed turns, etc. The automatic systems can't provide those.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07000742050625709410noreply@blogger.com