tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post5961458769774072037..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Magnifique!Velo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-31635222056850537612007-04-30T21:51:00.000-04:002007-04-30T21:51:00.000-04:00Alan: Well, Bruce Gordon still has the lovel 1980'...Alan: Well, Bruce Gordon still has the lovel 1980's show frame for sale. Imagine those hubs, a lovely CLB brake set, Sugino crank and some MKS pedals on that white frame. Wow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19163185279897857452007-04-30T18:06:00.000-04:002007-04-30T18:06:00.000-04:00vpkqyHigh end items have more Ebay value with the ...vpkqy<BR/>High end items have more Ebay value with the labels on them. Personally I think it's like Minnie Pearl's price tag hanging from her hat, and generally remove the labels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88712064031309769962007-04-30T16:52:00.000-04:002007-04-30T16:52:00.000-04:00Just curious but when building with these hubs wou...Just curious <BR/>but when building with these hubs would you leave the decal on, or would that be like leaving a tag on the arm of your suit. If left on I would asume it would soon be quite weathered. I would likely remove the decal, however would decrease the mistique. Also do have matching IRD freewheels in stockAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15064977414048366382007-04-30T09:54:00.000-04:002007-04-30T09:54:00.000-04:00"Currently I have an abundance of bikes, non of wh..."Currently I have an abundance of bikes, non of which are right for the hubs."<BR/><BR/>Clearly you are short one bike.Alanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00267394210839473090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42848589635347293662007-04-27T22:59:00.000-04:002007-04-27T22:59:00.000-04:00I've always been told the head goes in the counter...I've always been told the head goes in the countersunk hole. This allows the elbow to stick out a hair farther so it doesn't cut into the flange. That said, so long as you're using good quality parts and good technique I doubt it will have any real impact.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73504661070185128082007-04-27T21:03:00.000-04:002007-04-27T21:03:00.000-04:00Looking at those hubs gives rise to a minor moral ...Looking at those hubs gives rise to a minor moral quandry. <BR/><BR/>Currently I have an abundance of bikes, non of which are right for the hubs. <BR/><BR/>I don't need the hubs. But they are beautiful and I want the hubs. Is it wrong to buy a pair knowing they will likely spend the rest of my days in my display case?<BR/><BR/>Beautiful as they are, I am certain they ride as beautifully. Perhaps my heirs will have a practical use for them?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13317200743222648289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38719560874076496992007-04-27T18:21:00.000-04:002007-04-27T18:21:00.000-04:00this is an interesting thread about the shape of s...this is an interesting thread about the shape of spoke heads!!<BR/>again, I beg to differ, but the underside of a spoke head is not flat. I have a DT in my hand now. It has a distinct countersunk shape under the head where the head blends into the spoke shaft/elbow. I suspect that WS and PH spoke heads share the same profile although all I can get my hands on now is this DT...<BR/>nick at www.countrybicycle.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53956102366099342382007-04-27T14:17:00.000-04:002007-04-27T14:17:00.000-04:00The BCD on both the Sugino and Pake cranks is 130....The BCD on both the Sugino and Pake cranks is 130.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1524388537749445162007-04-27T14:12:00.000-04:002007-04-27T14:12:00.000-04:00Mine are countersunk on he elbow side, but they we...Mine are countersunk on he elbow side, but they were all built by the same guy or his disciples, so it may be local.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-77763221118607785772007-04-27T13:37:00.000-04:002007-04-27T13:37:00.000-04:00What's the BCD on the Sugino track crank?What's the BCD on the Sugino track crank?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-8059285791655485812007-04-27T13:28:00.000-04:002007-04-27T13:28:00.000-04:00Anonyme,That's exactly right, but think about it, ...Anonyme,<BR/><BR/>That's exactly right, but think about it, the head is "full seated and supported" on the flat side. The head isn't a countersunk shape. It's flat on the underside. <BR/><BR/>Anyhow, just ask a wheel builder you trust, or take a look at a decent set of wheels.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59208429430195131962007-04-27T09:34:00.000-04:002007-04-27T09:34:00.000-04:00I think the countersunk hole is for the head, the ...I think the countersunk hole is for the head, the elbow will make it's own slot under tension. Think about it, the underside of the head of a spoke is not flat so if it is run through the hub with the head on the non-countersunk side, the spoke head will stick-out. This part is critical to be full seated and supported. The elbow will make it's own seat as we have all noticed on a hub that has been previously laced...nick<BR/>www.countrybicycle.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22482963086366368322007-04-27T09:05:00.000-04:002007-04-27T09:05:00.000-04:00The countersunk hole is intended to hold the elbow...The countersunk hole is intended to hold the elbow. HTHDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78411573643634196312007-04-27T08:15:00.000-04:002007-04-27T08:15:00.000-04:00chris, perhaps something to consider: having phil...chris, perhaps something to consider: <BR/>having phil wood make thier touring hubs w/ the same flange cut outs the 'lightened' track hubs have. that would net a higher flanged hub, with a super strong rear axel, at a price barely above those french hubs. Also, you would get phil's bearings, which arnt anything super special, but he changes them out for cheap when you do wear them out. just a though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-70240892620873820082007-04-26T20:57:00.000-04:002007-04-26T20:57:00.000-04:00I always assumed it was the head, but now that you...I always assumed it was the head, but now that you mention it I'm not certain. Maybe Chris L. will chime in on this.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2421982465424026982007-04-26T18:45:00.000-04:002007-04-26T18:45:00.000-04:00Beautiful hubs! Can you tell us, are the countersu...Beautiful hubs! Can you tell us, are the countersunk spoke holes intended to accept the head or the elbow bend of the spoke? A recent thread over on rec.bicycles.tech discussed this. It was claimed that the elbow bend goes there. Are there any instructions from the manufacturer?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com