tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post5910868285107561811..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: More About the Pass HunterVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger42125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-67619792545214288902013-06-06T12:12:00.755-04:002013-06-06T12:12:00.755-04:00I think you should refer to the process as "t...I think you should refer to the process as "trail and error"Tim Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08283259933249028588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-66053273751514622202013-05-28T16:51:35.596-04:002013-05-28T16:51:35.596-04:00take my money! While I've bought and installed...take my money! While I've bought and installed a lot of VO parts, I haven't been tempted by VO frames in the past. I just checked in to look at parts options for a new build while deciding between a (very) few suitable frames and you've stopped my project in its tracks. Can't believe I'll have to wait until Fall for this. I need it now! Just echoing some other comments: <br /><br />Would love an unpainted frame, could probably be convinced to pay the same as a painted frame.<br /><br />Thank you for keeping the price right - welding is an art too!<br /><br />A second rear eyelet would be incredibly nice on a fast tourer/very fast commuter and of course, pass hunter. And they can't weigh much...<br /><br />Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37845138362491547172013-05-28T10:25:39.181-04:002013-05-28T10:25:39.181-04:00It would make little sense to design a bike like ...It would make little sense to design a bike like the Pass Hunter for 42mm tires. The Pass Hunter is primarily a fast road bike, though it is designed for both paved and unpaved roads. Though some may tell you that you can run a wide range of tire sizes on a particular frame, every frame is optimized for a particular tire size and going smaller or larger degrades handling to some extent.VeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-67212665782824208282013-05-25T18:59:43.735-04:002013-05-25T18:59:43.735-04:00How difficult is it to design for larger tires? Th...How difficult is it to design for larger tires? There are some very nice tires in the 700x42 range, for on road and off.<br />EricAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84074317811078586272013-05-20T14:13:59.227-04:002013-05-20T14:13:59.227-04:00Will be interested in seeing geometry figures. Wou...Will be interested in seeing geometry figures. Would I be correct in thinking as no 650B wheels and only 700c that in smaller frames will result in steeper seat tube angle and a higher standover height.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-49923259235668649132013-05-20T09:37:18.857-04:002013-05-20T09:37:18.857-04:00We use double-butted cro-mo in all our frames, inc...We use double-butted cro-mo in all our frames, including this one.VeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-85894363003951359422013-05-19T21:22:00.240-04:002013-05-19T21:22:00.240-04:00What kind of tubing will be used? Lightweight tubi...What kind of tubing will be used? Lightweight tubing was mentioned, I believe; but does this mean that it will be double butted? I know it's a lot to ask at the proposed price point but I'm just curious. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24163023508627558202013-05-17T09:50:22.043-04:002013-05-17T09:50:22.043-04:00The frame is designed for 32mm tires with fenders,...The frame is designed for 32mm tires with fenders, or 38mm without. 700c on all frame sizes.VeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-76736969015510284252013-05-16T18:28:14.797-04:002013-05-16T18:28:14.797-04:00Interesting possibilities.
So how much tire (700x...Interesting possibilities.<br /><br />So how much tire (700x) will I be able to run on the Pass Hunter?Gradyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14659849440472542464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-2633101949225362172013-05-14T18:57:10.475-04:002013-05-14T18:57:10.475-04:00Small 650B wheeled sizes? Small 650B wheeled sizes? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-9328446682497235912013-05-14T03:39:26.061-04:002013-05-14T03:39:26.061-04:00Dear Velo-ORANGE,
I see you spell your name witho...Dear Velo-ORANGE,<br /><br />I see you spell your name without the "-", the dash, but as Samuel Johnson said (I think) "Show me a man who can spell a word only one way, and I'll show you a boring man!".<br /><br />Anyway, I'm building up my bike with your Polyvalent frame, and at first I had much regret at not having a lugged frame. But as I go along, and I am a shorter bicyclist, I appreciate that with a smaller frame, the head tube still looks normal when TIG welded, as opposed to looking too small when the builder is forced to use lugs.<br /><br />Also, we should embrace modernity. Let me rephrase that: We should embrace new good design. For example, I am building my randonneur with a Campy Veloce Triple Groupset 9-speed c. 1998, with Ergo levers. After using my Shimano STI levers on my old Trek road bike, how could I go back to friction bar-end or down-tube shifters, and why would I, when Ergo-Power style shifters are so much quicker and efficient.<br /><br />I have not yet graduated to the electronic shifting or the carbon fiber components of the latest Campy & Shimano lines, and perhaps never will, but I do think we can use modern improvements, when they help us do our bicycling job better.<br /><br />David Pearce,<br />Washington, D.C.David Pearcehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17580599628294869568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64029155651389099882013-05-13T16:43:07.505-04:002013-05-13T16:43:07.505-04:00It dismays me that you are not going to have the P...It dismays me that you are not going to have the Passhunter come with a threaded fork. I take the following from your blog on December 10th 2009 under headset basics: <br /><br />Are threaded headsets better than threadless?<br /><br />Most bike manufacturers now make frames that use threadless forks and 1-1/8" threadless headsets, a size that was originally developed for mountain bikes. It is true that 1-1/8" threadless headsets are stronger than 1" threaded, but road bikes don't need the extra strength. It is massive overkill. The big disadvantage of threadless headsets is that they don't use quill stems, which allow easy up and down adjustment. With the threadless system you cut the fork steerer to length and then adjust the height by using a different stem or by shuffling spacers. If you cut and set up your fork correctly it's fine, but if you need to later adjust handlebar height upward it gets expensive or even impossible.<br /><br />So why are threadless systems popular? They are promoted by big bike manufacturers to lower production cost. Only one size fork need be made for each frame and it does not need the additional steps of cutting a keyway and threading. Then the fork steerer is cut to size by the customer or bike shop. This results in a huge cost saving for a big bike manufacturer.<br /><br />With threaded forks, like those used by Velo Orange, forks are made for each frame size. Beyond the adjustability of a quill stem, an additional benefit of making a specific forks for each frame size is that it allows us to make slight rake adjustments for smaller frame sizes. This results in optimal handling for those small frames.<br /><br />I have learned a lot about bicycles and frames from your web site. I would hope you reconsider to have the passhunter with a threaded fork..Kenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14245573004221959086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17499495322295416332013-05-12T13:02:13.976-04:002013-05-12T13:02:13.976-04:00Sensible, broadly appealing call on the 1 1/8 inch...Sensible, broadly appealing call on the 1 1/8 inch headset standard on the Pass Hunter. I applaud your practicality in this matter. Am already amassing parts for a build of this frame.<br /><br />Cheers,<br /><br /> Mike Beck<br /> 'bekologist'bekologistnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-101427092483630452013-05-11T11:22:33.450-04:002013-05-11T11:22:33.450-04:00I've been wanting a Campeur with threadless an...I've been wanting a Campeur with threadless and more tire clearance, thanks! Here's some low-cost things I think few would dislike and many would like...<br /><br />I recommend:<br />Under-downtube bottle mount Lowrider fork mounts ala Campeur<br />Rear double eyelets ala Campeur<br />Fork double eyelets ala Campeur<br /><br />Thanks, John<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-89111537910120736742013-05-11T08:25:32.903-04:002013-05-11T08:25:32.903-04:00No kickstand plate, sorry.No kickstand plate, sorry.VeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-81493585018286630732013-05-10T16:09:27.457-04:002013-05-10T16:09:27.457-04:00Is there a kickstand plate? My guess would be no,...Is there a kickstand plate? My guess would be no, I don't like them ( makes frame look cheap, to my eyes, sorry if I offend).howtostretchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217530853178611367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-35420249856931505392013-05-10T02:59:05.247-04:002013-05-10T02:59:05.247-04:00that seat cluster is beautiful! very elegantthat seat cluster is beautiful! very elegantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-78236757864399123262013-05-10T01:22:25.689-04:002013-05-10T01:22:25.689-04:00I've always been reluctant to buy a V-O frame ...I've always been reluctant to buy a V-O frame because I don't like threaded headsets. This is fantastic, though I wish it was more low trail i understand why it's not. <br /><br />Confidential to all you geezers who are crying about a threadless stem and singly eyelets on the back:<br />V-O *currently* produces a frame which would suit your needs perfectly: It's named the Campeur, and aside from the ridiculous spelling, it is a wonderful frame on which to mount your quill x trunk bag collabo. Please stop begging for a homermobile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-68602356922402050762013-05-09T18:24:52.179-04:002013-05-09T18:24:52.179-04:00I will most certainly be buying one of these and p...I will most certainly be buying one of these and pre-ordering is possible. Yay!abrownfieldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16984708917471398755noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-57699022270585857082013-05-09T16:47:57.549-04:002013-05-09T16:47:57.549-04:00The last thread had some requests for large frames...The last thread had some requests for large frames. Here's another vote for a biggie (65+cm) and massive uncut steerer tube. Pretty please ;-)Tim Khttp://carfreedays.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-79863483668224021622013-05-09T09:12:19.042-04:002013-05-09T09:12:19.042-04:00As for threadless, maybe you could offer your tall...As for threadless, maybe you could offer your tall-stack stem in different heights and angles as well as lengths. Challenging in terms of setting inventory, but one way to mitigate retrogrouch backlash. : >)Don S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-75499547082103380852013-05-09T09:04:48.180-04:002013-05-09T09:04:48.180-04:00All that frame for 600 is outstanding. Thank you!All that frame for 600 is outstanding. Thank you!Don S.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-4068410029366493882013-05-09T08:06:34.792-04:002013-05-09T08:06:34.792-04:00@Clint:
You can pretty easily mount both into one...@Clint:<br /><br />You can pretty easily mount both into one, or you can do as I did on my Rando--the rear rack I use has plates near the bottom of the rack legs, so I drilled those and mounted the fender stays to the rack at those plates. 1,200 miles later, no problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51286359419843708452013-05-09T01:32:05.965-04:002013-05-09T01:32:05.965-04:00Thank you for the update. Good choices in my opini...Thank you for the update. Good choices in my opinion. I wish you switched to threadless fork in Campeur. I think threadable 1 inch steerer would be good compromise.Marcin S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06788112636703227503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41850103413113979372013-05-09T00:10:03.787-04:002013-05-09T00:10:03.787-04:00This looks great. I'm thinking of switching my...This looks great. I'm thinking of switching my cross-check to SS and make this my brevet bike. Sorry if this is a dumb question though but how do you mount fenders and rack with a single rear eyelet? Both into one?Clintnoreply@blogger.com