tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post5417048016680629085..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Leather?Velo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-44290192052096154482013-08-08T18:45:56.931-04:002013-08-08T18:45:56.931-04:00I love the handlebag, where did you get it? I love the handlebag, where did you get it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-75381101032888289112007-11-05T21:56:00.000-05:002007-11-05T21:56:00.000-05:00This is about as luxurious as I would hope a bicyc...This is about as luxurious as I would hope a bicycle bag could possible get. Amazing craftsmanship. A thing of beauty. And yet totally insane at the same time. It screams Coach, or maybe even Tumi.<BR/><BR/>My head is spinning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-90320982748544071242007-11-05T18:23:00.000-05:002007-11-05T18:23:00.000-05:00Chris,Those bags are beautiful! I'll definitely b...Chris,<BR/><BR/>Those bags are beautiful! I'll definitely budget for a set of those bags in the near future if you decide to stock them. Will you be getting both the black and the tan models?<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/>RichardAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-13816127223301976402007-11-02T19:34:00.000-04:002007-11-02T19:34:00.000-04:00I am surprised no one else mentioned this (or mayb...I am surprised no one else mentioned this (or maybe i missed a post)<BR/><BR/>what about those rollers (for centerpull or canti brakes i assume)... I know you said some time ago you were working on getting some made, but i havnt heard an update in a while.<BR/><BR/>why not order a big box of those rollers and a bunch of those leather hoods from this guy...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7178773296759610512007-11-02T16:43:00.000-04:002007-11-02T16:43:00.000-04:00I asked Carradice about the Brompton Bureau, and t...I asked Carradice about the Brompton Bureau, and they said it only mounts to Brompton bikes. I asked for a photo of the rear of the bag.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24555835037911893822007-11-02T11:05:00.000-04:002007-11-02T11:05:00.000-04:00I'm surprised by how many people feel strongly abo...I'm surprised by how many people feel strongly about bags. <BR/><BR/>Having any bag made in the US is very difficult, at least for us. We are still trying to get the TA-style bag I announced over a year ago into production. What happens is that a company says they are interested and after a month or so we agree on specs and I order a prototype. Them after several months of delays the company decides it's too complicated for their staff or there is not enough profit in it. So we try to find another company and it all happens again.<BR/><BR/>The thing with these leather bags is that they are a happy accident. An associate mentions to my agent that he has worked with this Japanese leather worker, who is US based, and he specializes in small runs of bags for various industries, including the fashion industry. And, I'm told, he offers good pricing and fairly fast delivery. So we've send him samples and drawings knowing he has the skill and experience to either make them or quickly decide he can't. It's nice when something is simple for a change.<BR/><BR/>As for leather brake lever hoods, we fooled around with those and I decided that the amount of time and money I'd have to invest in having them made is simply not worth the bother. Sorry, but there are projects that would appeal to a broader audience that deserve the attention.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80136452546787509212007-11-02T09:59:00.000-04:002007-11-02T09:59:00.000-04:00Chris K:Is it possible to craft a waxed cotton han...Chris K:<BR/><BR/>Is it possible to craft a waxed cotton handlbar bag, with or w/o leather trim, the design of which rests between the Berthoud and the RBW Boxy bag (i.e. not necessarily as tailored and pretty as the Berthoud but having enough stucture to not look like a deflated sack when empty) IN THE USA, for about $100?<BR/><BR/>ACFAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54482451106404085432007-11-02T07:05:00.000-04:002007-11-02T07:05:00.000-04:00The Brompton Bureau looks like the Carradice Kenda...The Brompton Bureau looks like the Carradice Kendal, panniers that Carradice has made for decades---except in green. It's a shame Carradice doesn't offer the Kendal in green, but I don't think they like to change the way they do things. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88303589809509953512007-11-02T07:04:00.000-04:002007-11-02T07:04:00.000-04:00Anonyme said..."Garu, there was no offense intende...Anonyme said...<BR/><BR/>"Garu, there was no offense intended, but I've spent some considerable time in Japan myself, and seen quite a few Toei's first hand that have hardly turned a wheel, with the only dust visible being that from the polishing cloth.<BR/><BR/>Some of them get a workout, including my own, but there are plenty of garage queens...."<BR/><BR/><BR/>Anonyme, that's a shame... Next time you are back in Japan for any length of time, please let me know - I'll do what I can to keep you away from the garage queens and point you towards the kings of the road...<BR/><BR/>garuAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51826301775632322182007-11-02T04:28:00.000-04:002007-11-02T04:28:00.000-04:00Chris-I'd be interested in brake lever hoods too-f...Chris-I'd be interested in brake lever hoods too-for the old campy and mafac levers. The bags are almost too much for meAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51561206992717261562007-11-02T00:09:00.000-04:002007-11-02T00:09:00.000-04:00Thanks for the link, Joel. The dimensions are just...Thanks for the link, Joel. The dimensions are just about perfect! I wonder if the rear pocket placement leaves a gap for the rack (and if there's a rack attachment.) And I wonder if it's decaleur-able...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73343280275348894042007-11-01T22:27:00.000-04:002007-11-01T22:27:00.000-04:00https://www.secured-url.co.uk/carradiceshop/ccp51/...https://www.secured-url.co.uk/carradiceshop/ccp51/cgi-bin/cp-app.cgi?&pg=prod&ref=brompton-bureau<BR/><BR/>Here's an interesting bag on the Carradice website.<BR/><BR/>JoelUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14767511746579716382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-21386903532291589592007-11-01T21:15:00.000-04:002007-11-01T21:15:00.000-04:00Garu, there was no offense intended, but I've spen...Garu, there was no offense intended, but I've spent some considerable time in Japan myself, and seen quite a few Toei's first hand that have hardly turned a wheel, with the only dust visible being that from the polishing cloth.<BR/><BR/>Some of them get a workout, including my own, but there are plenty of garage queens....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-18258393425882490992007-11-01T20:13:00.000-04:002007-11-01T20:13:00.000-04:00AAH! That IS the bag I want! While strange happeni...AAH! That IS the bag I want! While strange happenings in the currency market make this cheaper for a Canadian such as myself than for an American, 59400 yen still comes in at just under $500. If it were $250, or even $300...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7671169899700745352007-11-01T19:31:00.000-04:002007-11-01T19:31:00.000-04:00Adam,THIS is the bag you want!http://www.guu-watan...Adam,<BR/>THIS is the bag you want!<BR/>http://www.guu-watanabe.com/mr.nj.html<BR/><BR/>if/when I get a custom bike , I'm getting a bag like this to go with it!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-275436160456685542007-11-01T16:06:00.000-04:002007-11-01T16:06:00.000-04:00Thick deerhide or elkhide hoods that stitch on the...Thick deerhide or elkhide hoods that stitch on the bottom would be great.<BR/><BR/>They'll confrom to shape, can be treated with non-toxic oils and waxes and will be like good gloves or shoes.<BR/><BR/>Might be slick when wet, though.<BR/>But so is rubber at a point.<BR/>Any thoughts on the FULL (#38) toe clip cover?<BR/><BR/>See: http://velo-orange.blogspot.com/2006/05/more-on-toe-clip-covers.html<BR/><BR/>I like cotton tape, I like the feel and don't really mind the bar shock. <BR/>But I also don't wear gloves, and risk bad scrapes.<BR/><BR/>Any padding over a certain thickness causes numbness for my hands. <BR/><BR/>I guess I just got used to it, and I have a desk job, so I've not got well-developed hand musculature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-35893392046168949872007-11-01T11:57:00.000-04:002007-11-01T11:57:00.000-04:00I have a semi-related question:I'm looking for a r...I have a semi-related question:<BR/><BR/>I'm looking for a really large front bag. I have a Nitto M12 front rack (20cm platform length) and about 29cm from the top of the platform to the top of my bars. I'll be using it for grocery shopping, and also as a sort of briefcase. I'd like to use a decaleur, and of course I'd like something aesthetically appealing. I do like the Berthoud bags, but something with more depth would be great. And something taller than the stocked Ostrich, and maybe with leather trim :) Chris has mentioned his huge ALPS bag, which is out of production. Any ideas for something I can get now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1594933381676752132007-11-01T10:30:00.000-04:002007-11-01T10:30:00.000-04:00Anonyme said..."C, there are plenty of people who ...Anonyme said...<BR/><BR/>"C, there are plenty of people who do far more looking at their bikes than riding, especially in Japan! I don't think those Herse replicas actually do more than a few kilometres a year."<BR/><BR/>Umm... Sorry, C, but - with deep respect - I think yer talking out of yer back end. I live in Japan, and I can guarantee you that we ride - long, if not always hard - those beautiful bikes. Well before your lot discovered 650B bikes (and I am talking decades ago), builders and *users* in Japan have been quietly singing their praises. I have friends and acquaintences who have tens of thousands of kilometers on their beautiful "Herse replicas" (Toei, Alps, Cherubim, Watanabe, Pegasus, etc.). If you don't know what you are talking about, fair enough...but why not keep your lack of knowledge to yourself?<BR/><BR/>Pax...and matta,<BR/>garuAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-74957902664939917972007-11-01T10:23:00.000-04:002007-11-01T10:23:00.000-04:00a repro of the little zipper top bag to fit a bott...a repro of the little zipper top bag to fit a bottle cage ? Yeah baybee, now that would be cool. <BR/><BR/>I agree on the meat industry, I don't eat meat, but I do have 5 Ideale saddles, one Brooks (titanium limited edition Swallow) and leather boat shoes that held up fine in the salt spray of a bermuda race.<BR/><BR/>So I say use the material that works best for the application, and argue later about the ethical or philosophical aspects of your choice. <BR/><BR/>Heck, I even have (horrors) a carbon fiber bottle cage made by TA. Is it the only one in the US?<BR/><BR/>Mark Petry<BR/>Bainbridge Island, WAmpetry912https://www.blogger.com/profile/02434530239246909594noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-31519141579319755182007-11-01T05:49:00.000-04:002007-11-01T05:49:00.000-04:00Ummm...that's because they're still alive. Once yo...<"However cows seems to handle the rain quit well. Go figure."<BR/><BR/>Ummm...that's because they're still alive. Once you kill them they deteriorate quite quickly.><BR/><BR/>Good observation ... so it must also mean that leather hides properly tanned and prepared for the intended use such as hiking boots or all weather jackets and even bicycle bags should stand up to the rain and moisture in the climate. And I guess that is the key.<BR/><BR/>Still I'm advised not to ride the Brooks saddles in the rain which I try to avoid (since we don't get that much rain in sunny Southern California ... just wild fires as of late).<BR/><BR/>Maybe a bicycle that would stand up to all the elements including fire and a set of lungs that could withstand the smoke and ash ... riding in that stuff is pretty tough ... however I did spot a few cyclists with those cool fire fighter oxygen masks ... maybe that might be my next major purchase ...<BR/><BR/>Chris do you plan on carrying some Rene Herse styled oxygen masks for this global warming thing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45766549359527468742007-10-31T23:46:00.000-04:002007-10-31T23:46:00.000-04:00C, there are plenty of people who do far more look...C, there are plenty of people who do far more looking at their bikes than riding, especially in Japan! I don't think those Herse replicas actually do more than a few kilometres a year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-10292599362665829182007-10-31T21:44:00.000-04:002007-10-31T21:44:00.000-04:00I imagine that there is a market for leather handl...I imagine that there is a market for leather handlebar bags, but it does not include me. I would prefer to see a waterproof version of the Ostrich.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-85581114449317198022007-10-31T18:45:00.000-04:002007-10-31T18:45:00.000-04:00I hate the feel of rubber, it's sort of like a fin...I hate the feel of rubber, it's sort of like a fingernails-on-the-chalkboard thing to me, so leather hoods would be an improvement. Nice to look at, nice to touch, what could be better?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-61168763064880980062007-10-31T18:14:00.000-04:002007-10-31T18:14:00.000-04:00OK, I'm at a loss as to why you'd want leather bra...OK, I'm at a loss as to why you'd want leather brake hoods. I suppose they're great if you look at your bike more than you ride it. I just don't see how a leather hood is going to be more comfortable than a rubber hood. <BR/><BR/>Then again, I don't understand the appeal of cloth tape either. Never understood why I'd want tape that doesn't have any cushioning AND will transmit cold more than cork/plastic/leather. <BR/><BR/>I know leather hoods might look nicer on certain bikes but when you're actually riding it's not exactly a part you're going to see very often.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11518676530382728512007-10-31T17:10:00.000-04:002007-10-31T17:10:00.000-04:00No leather. Canvas is where it's at.No leather. Canvas is where it's at.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com