tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post4465165816482638607..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Polyvalent Ride Report, A Guest BlogVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20195455622720179732009-12-11T00:05:41.265-05:002009-12-11T00:05:41.265-05:00I would have bought a polyv if it was designed for...I would have bought a polyv if it was designed for a 26" tire. Since this is most likely to be a second or third bike you'd have more customers with one of those two wheel sizes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-43900222553959756092009-12-09T02:38:40.658-05:002009-12-09T02:38:40.658-05:00I really wish that the production frame looked lik...I really wish that the production frame looked like the prototype. I know it's suppose to be low-end for the sake of city riding, but man I wish I had Kyles prototype.<br /><br />p.s. I ride in NYC everyday with no helmet, in work boots, and oh my goodness, no gloves.Pierce Boaznoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16102579552264701242009-12-08T23:23:25.574-05:002009-12-08T23:23:25.574-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17100227166103506687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62823128476385190472009-12-08T19:40:34.165-05:002009-12-08T19:40:34.165-05:00obviously, chris, he is advocating that you lend m...obviously, chris, he is advocating that you lend me one of these bikes, so i can offer an independant ridelugged review based on dirt road rides and s24os in the frederick watershed. <br /><br />heck, i even have a bunch of parts for one.johnsonhttp://ridelugged.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-75911127245461875722009-12-08T19:08:10.070-05:002009-12-08T19:08:10.070-05:00Bikes today have toe clip overlap issues only beca...Bikes today have toe clip overlap issues only because the wheelbases are so short to begin with. I'm not advocating 27 inch wheels, since they are obviously obsolete... I'm just fighting against gratuitous bike review type statements that don't mean anything. I expect more from the kind of cyclists who value bikes such as offered by Velo Orange.<br /><br />I like the Polyvalent. If I wasn't chronically poor of pocket, I would gladly order one. As far as the bikes and most of the components and accessories go, I'm all for Velo Orange.<br /><br />However, surprisingly, the preference for 650B was never universal even in France.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1173816343290463172009-12-08T14:24:06.322-05:002009-12-08T14:24:06.322-05:00less toe clip overlap. better. yes better. tire s...less toe clip overlap. better. yes better. tire selection. better rims being made. smaller diameter rims are stronger, too. <br /><br />cool factor. <br /><br />if these reasons arnt enough, perhaps they arnt right for you and you can keep kicking your 1983 27 inch action till 2089.johnsonhttp://ridelugged.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-49702417653674367582009-12-08T13:44:45.780-05:002009-12-08T13:44:45.780-05:00"forgiving ride, less flat-prone, and general..."forgiving ride, less flat-prone, and general confidence you get on wide tires"<br /><br />If that's what 650B offers, I'm pretty sure I'm already getting all of those from my very old 27 inch wheels.<br /><br />Give me a better reason for 650B.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36986991968822436402009-12-07T23:48:45.191-05:002009-12-07T23:48:45.191-05:00I know this is a bit of a heresy in this Francophi...I know this is a bit of a heresy in this Francophillic space, but I need to mention that Cole de la Vie tires mentioned as ideal for the Polyvalent also come in the 650A size, which has prebuilt wheels available as replacements for old english 3-speeds at rather economic prices. <br /><br />Those 650A Cole de la Vie tires are the largest available for 650a, so if you want to go a size or two larger, 650B is the way to go. <br /><br />Otherwise, do not let the monikier of "650" prevent you from buying a Polyvalent, the "650" size does not necessarily mean very costly (although very good) 650B wheels, look around and you'll find some very inexpensive 650A options.Anon of Floridanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28789340041370092772009-12-07T13:07:19.839-05:002009-12-07T13:07:19.839-05:00That will take Quasi-Motos, but not the bigger Neo...That will take Quasi-Motos, but not the bigger Neo knobbies.Protoriohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13076912066157770087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-29723394214844749952009-12-07T13:04:50.735-05:002009-12-07T13:04:50.735-05:00there are a lot more knobby mtn bike tires for 650...there are a lot more knobby mtn bike tires for 650b than street tires. Kenda, Pacenti, WTB, Schwalbe, Panaracer, all have off raod worthy tires in that size: <br /><br />http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?606712-New-VO-frameset-for-400&p=10110751&viewfull=1#post10110751Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64671632050431878782009-12-07T12:55:11.160-05:002009-12-07T12:55:11.160-05:00The only ones I can find come in either 2.35"...The only ones I can find come in either 2.35" or 2.10" wide. I have no idea how accurately they measure, or whether that includes parts of the tread that hang off the sides, or whatever. Think the wider ones would work?<br /><br />Also, for the 650b pre-made wheels you guys sell, are the rims wide enough for these fat tires?Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-82566905710742539292009-12-07T12:05:44.946-05:002009-12-07T12:05:44.946-05:00The Polyvalent will fit at least 50mm tires withou...The Polyvalent will fit at least 50mm tires without fenders.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-76547204505392714412009-12-07T11:12:49.332-05:002009-12-07T11:12:49.332-05:00Great. If you don't use fenders, what is the ...Great. If you don't use fenders, what is the maximum width tire that would fit, without pushing it?Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5912694190227995692009-12-07T10:14:25.019-05:002009-12-07T10:14:25.019-05:00as a manager at an LBS, we do not stock the tires....as a manager at an LBS, we do not stock the tires. however, we can order them and have them in generally a day. so. not a big deal.johnsonhttp://ridelugged.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19977616824751640982009-12-07T09:44:35.482-05:002009-12-07T09:44:35.482-05:00Dave: I believe the 650b Pacenti Neo-Moto tires ar...Dave: I believe the 650b Pacenti Neo-Moto tires are now available.<br /><br />anon 12/5 9:08:<br /><br />Yours is a curious question given it relates to a bike sold over the internet. Your LBS may not have 650b tires, but they are readily available on line. <br /><br />The design and geometry of the Polyvalent would have been different had VO built it around a 26" tire.Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12387228692597071882009-12-07T08:24:41.062-05:002009-12-07T08:24:41.062-05:00Hey guys,
Do they make knobby tires in 650b? I w...Hey guys,<br /><br />Do they make knobby tires in 650b? I was thinking of making up an old-style mountain bike and one of these Polyvalent frames would probably work great for that. It would probably make a great wheel size, as I think 29ers are a bit unwieldy. I realize that there are of course lots of street tires for 650b, but what's available for off-road?<br /><br />DavidDadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19541216289372201012009-12-07T04:39:57.987-05:002009-12-07T04:39:57.987-05:00oh, for the olden days when there was no media, an...oh, for the olden days when there was no media, and no fear of living http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/penncyclebuy/vint-smoke.jpgAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62536881668844682182009-12-06T16:18:35.925-05:002009-12-06T16:18:35.925-05:00Patates, It may not fly, but it planes. Sorry; cou...Patates, It may not fly, but it planes. Sorry; couldn't resist.<br /><br />Annon, In Europe, and much of the world, wearing helmets for day-to-day riding is considered a silly American affectation. Though with Maryland drivers...<br /><br /><br />See? This is why Chris is (one of) the best. Snappy, clever bikes and comments!<br /><br />As far as the helmet question goes; My brother always says: "You can either look like an idiot or become one."ablejackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17943952045338139458noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-27274457529004547532009-12-06T12:57:17.136-05:002009-12-06T12:57:17.136-05:00"I'm curious as to why 650b wheels are us..."I'm curious as to why 650b wheels are used instead of 26"?"<br /><br />Anon - The 584mm (650b) vs. 559mm (26") question is the source of a lot of debate. One answer may be that there are a few 584mm tires available that are particularly good for city riding in that they provide for a cushy, fast ride over crappy pavement. So, it's more a matter of the quality of the tire you have at 584mm rather than the breadth of selection.<br /><br />I'm not a particularly religious person when it comes to tire size, although I have two 584mm-oriented bikes and one 590mm bike. I just wanted to standardize my bikes to some degree and I like how they look on the smaller frame sizes I ride.Leehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17100227166103506687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-68536239931159953222009-12-05T21:08:05.452-05:002009-12-05T21:08:05.452-05:00I'm curious as to why 650b wheels are used ins...I'm curious as to why 650b wheels are used instead of 26"? A wide variety of tires are available for 26" rims and they're easy to find. I don't think I've ever seen the 650 size offered in bike shops where I live (Western Canada.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53912724752395038642009-12-05T14:27:06.083-05:002009-12-05T14:27:06.083-05:00hrrmm,
I was thinking about getting one of these f...hrrmm,<br />I was thinking about getting one of these frames until I read more closely that they take 650B wheels... a new set of wheels and tires pushes the price beyond my limit because, for me, a new frame means removing parts from another of my bikes and building it up. Since I have no 650Bs lying around, this is a no-go.<br /><br />dern!<br />AllanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-42838197642350409452009-12-05T14:12:31.602-05:002009-12-05T14:12:31.602-05:00Perry, the dude is wearing work boots and no glove...Perry, the dude is wearing work boots and no gloves what do you expect ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38922667802558989702009-12-05T08:26:50.031-05:002009-12-05T08:26:50.031-05:00do you tell people who smoke to not smoke? tell p...do you tell people who smoke to not smoke? tell people who go 10 over the speed limit to slow down? tell people who use candles in wood floored houses to use fake electric candles? helmets are a personal choice. i can't believe that people can't understand that. it's rude. also, really, correcting someone's spelling? tis the season to have too much time on one's hands, i guess.johnsonhttp://ridelugged.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-66499084764760423912009-12-04T21:39:31.271-05:002009-12-04T21:39:31.271-05:00"Including extension" means to the top o..."Including extension" means to the top of the seat post collar. C-T-C is center-to-center. C-T-T is center-to-top (top of the top tube not including extension).Le Cagotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-30833451956816212452009-12-04T21:37:37.945-05:002009-12-04T21:37:37.945-05:00At the frame specs, it says that the seat tube is ...At the frame specs, it says that the seat tube is measured including the extension. Does "extension" mean seat collar? Also, top tube is measured c-t-c. What does this mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com