tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post3863040483341265099..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: VO Skewers and Other NewsVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-8953843500381555272009-03-11T01:06:00.000-04:002009-03-11T01:06:00.000-04:00Nice. Because of Sheldon Brown's writing, I'm not...Nice. Because of Sheldon Brown's writing, I'm not a proper part of VO's target audience and I kinda want one. :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88312884736440001192009-01-22T02:29:00.000-05:002009-01-22T02:29:00.000-05:00You're all missing the point.Wasn't it a huge clim...You're all missing the point.<BR/>Wasn't it a huge climb Tullio was on and he need to flip his wheel for a bigger cog? And as such the Campagnolo quick release was first presented as a "Gear Changer".<BR/>it made changing gears faster...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28937676469942529112009-01-11T10:42:00.000-05:002009-01-11T10:42:00.000-05:00this is starting to sound like the CR mailing list...this is starting to sound like the CR mailing list-bickering old ladies and all...yankee_dollarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01440582087070295095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59444896496306990112009-01-10T19:56:00.000-05:002009-01-10T19:56:00.000-05:00This is a very nice effort. I probably sound mad, ...This is a very nice effort. I probably sound mad, but I dislike the engraved 'Open' and 'Closed' on either side of the lever more than I do the VO logo. Of course, not having the legends probably sets one up for a liability suit.Kris Hicks-Greenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12764499328719930749noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14668540515528318992009-01-09T23:36:00.000-05:002009-01-09T23:36:00.000-05:00Steve said:Do you not have flats? I can remove a Q...Steve said:<BR/><BR/><I>Do you not have flats? I can remove a QR wheel with one hand, without tools. An allen bolt skewer isn't much different than any other bolt-on: you've got to remove the wrench from your tool bag (and that's a big fuss right there) and then lay the bike down and use two hands to open the release. And then, you have to put your tools away again. That's a lot more than a trifle.</I><BR/><BR/>Steve, you've just described the exact situation in which any mere mortal would already need to have tools. How is first having to get out a single allen wrench significantly more difficult than also digging out tire levers and a patch kit? However, if you're able to remove tires with your bare hands and produce tire tubes from thin air like a magician pulls a rabbit from a hat, then you've got it made!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-29561621913882795972009-01-09T23:13:00.000-05:002009-01-09T23:13:00.000-05:00Steve,I almost never remove my wheels, haven't had...Steve,<BR/>I almost never remove my wheels, haven't had a flat on the road in over 6 years (only one slow leak overnight in the house) and ride with both allen bolt-ons and quick release skewers. I'm thinking of slowly switching over to all allen bolt-ons. They are good looking, light, inexpensive (at least the ones I use are) and easy to operate. With allen key in hand, I can remove the a wheel as quickly as a quick release.<BR/>Just a different viewpoint...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91078220756315696592009-01-09T19:02:00.000-05:002009-01-09T19:02:00.000-05:00Ron saidNot to sound too contrary, but. Since when...Ron said<BR/><I><BR/>Not to sound too contrary, but. Since when does a non racer need (I mean NEED) a quick release skewer anyway? Are you happy to make their wheels easier prey to thieves just so you can take off your wheels 20 seconds faster than I can with an allen bolt skewer? Just wondering why we're so excited about racing parts on our non racing bikes.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Do you never have to remove a wheel to transport your bike? Do you not have flats? I can remove a QR wheel with one hand, without tools. An allen bolt skewer isn't much different than any other bolt-on: you've got to remove the wrench from your tool bag (and that's a big fuss right there) and then lay the bike down and use two hands to open the release. And then, you have to put your tools away again. That's a lot more than a trifle.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127635083892565152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-43041332581501860032009-01-09T17:09:00.000-05:002009-01-09T17:09:00.000-05:00the skewers are great. I too have had lots of trou...the skewers are great. I too have had lots of trouble with alloy skewers with famous labels. Ti skewers, esp, are almost impossible for me to get tight enough in certain frames. Then the inside of your chainstays gets rubbed down to the metal. I like these the way they are, they look strong and smart, I don't care what sort of decoration they have.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65392517517211922212009-01-09T16:34:00.000-05:002009-01-09T16:34:00.000-05:00You know how it goes. All locks are deterants, and...You know how it goes. All locks are deterants, and calculated risks. A bolt on skewer/wheel is too.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13601092971406547119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-40335046115894825022009-01-09T14:30:00.000-05:002009-01-09T14:30:00.000-05:00Use Pitlock (or if you prefer a cheap knock off, t...Use Pitlock (or if you prefer a cheap knock off, the Soma security) skewers.<BR/><BR/>You need a special shaped wrench end to get them off.<BR/><BR/>Sure someone with a hack saw could saw the Pitlock off. The hope is the thief would go rob someone else.<BR/><BR/>Pitlocks have a very nice patina and look good on the bike as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-74247469774636793002009-01-09T13:52:00.000-05:002009-01-09T13:52:00.000-05:00The ability to use an allen key (or, wait for it--...The ability to use an allen key (or, wait for it--a 15mm wrench!) is not reserved for cyclists. I don't know how it works where you live, but where I'm from we have these places called "hardware stores" where ANYONE can walk in, and for about a dollar, can walk out with an allen key. A cheap wrench is only a couple of dollars more. Even people with criminal backgrounds are allowed to shop at these stores.<BR/>I am being a bit of a prick here, but what I am trying to say is that bolted wheels only give a false sense of security. A friend used to solder his allen heads on his quill stem because he lost a bar/stem/shifter/brake combo. And this was in Victoria, a relatively affluent and safe city. QRs just mean I lock my wheels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-9253286084615873932009-01-09T13:37:00.000-05:002009-01-09T13:37:00.000-05:00@RonUs non racers think of QR as short for "tool f...@Ron<BR/><BR/>Us non racers think of QR as short for "tool free."M Benjaminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10198546739878131465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73060846944157178542009-01-09T12:42:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:42:00.000-05:00Not to sound too contrary, but. Since when does a ...Not to sound too contrary, but. Since when does a non racer need (I mean NEED) a quick release skewer anyway? Are you happy to make their wheels easier prey to thieves just so you can take off your wheels 20 seconds faster than I can with an allen bolt skewer? Just wondering why we're so excited about racing parts on our non racing bikes.<BR/><BR/>RonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47733377213922571702009-01-09T12:23:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:23:00.000-05:00I prefer the exposed cam...only because it makes m...I prefer the exposed cam...only because it makes me feel like I "know" it's sound and secure!<BR/>Generally speaking, I dislike the "designer label syndrome" logo splashed everywhere...but, as long as it is subdued, muted, and not glow- in- the- dark...I will learn to live with it.(yes, I'm one of those people that strips all the decals off their bike!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36597894841047033122009-01-09T12:13:00.000-05:002009-01-09T12:13:00.000-05:00One of the little things reminds me that Shimano i...One of the little things reminds me that Shimano is an OK company is that they never abandoned the internal cam on their skewers. Admittedly, the new XTR aren't cup of tea--I'm particularly fond of the late '80s 600/Ultegra/color-panel(?) version.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13601092971406547119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7341411778799526982009-01-09T10:21:00.000-05:002009-01-09T10:21:00.000-05:00I have a frame with chrome horizontal drop outs an...I have a frame with chrome horizontal drop outs and aluminum skewers just would not hold in place. A switch to some older steel skewers cured the slipping problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73695332318886397632009-01-09T01:41:00.000-05:002009-01-09T01:41:00.000-05:00neat. I use the allen bolt skewers. those are ni...neat. I use the allen bolt skewers. those are nice for the added theft protection and cleaner look. I didn't realize about the apparent de-evolution of skewers, very interesting...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45361946334427926552009-01-08T22:18:00.000-05:002009-01-08T22:18:00.000-05:00Keep the orange dot or just go with smooth end. N...Keep the orange dot or just go with smooth end. No VO logo. It will be too small to be clearly seen and just make the skewer look scuffed when seen at a distance. Besides, depending on the angle of the lever, the logo will not be vertical.<BR/><BR/>If you could get the dot color coordinated to your Randonneur frame standard colors, it would be very cool indeed.Supreme Commanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02538962675224770345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16589719594498278692009-01-08T19:04:00.000-05:002009-01-08T19:04:00.000-05:00Perfect! I've been looking for handsome skewers fo...Perfect! I've been looking for handsome skewers for a while now. I would also support a non-quick release version.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59599413277361748892009-01-08T15:36:00.000-05:002009-01-08T15:36:00.000-05:00I like the aluminum cam end. In my experience, it'...I like the aluminum cam end. In my experience, it's the drive side that slips in a horizontal dropout. That's what first prompted me to ditch my modern (all-aluminum)skewers and hunt down a set of older steel Dura-Ace ones. No slippage since.jimmytheflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060952522546330342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-72912032882987467952009-01-08T13:53:00.000-05:002009-01-08T13:53:00.000-05:00@workbikehttp://www.sheldonbrown.com/skewers.html@workbike<BR/><BR/>http://www.sheldonbrown.com/skewers.htmlDominic Doughertyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12269734699984173810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64885259539277956302009-01-08T11:50:00.000-05:002009-01-08T11:50:00.000-05:00>>The Campy Nuevo Record skewers with their ...>>The Campy Nuevo Record skewers with their heavy plating were in my opinion the best skewers ever made. That is why a mint set sells for ridiculous prices on eBay. Back in the mid 1980's Specialized attempted to copy this design verbatim but did not do as well of job with the plating or the quality of the steel.<<<BR/><BR/>I have had more sets of Campy NR qr's, and they are indeed nice. However, I have found the Specialized copies to be just as good, chrome wise, and quality wise. Except for the d-ring, I think Campy did a more robust version. I have several wheelsets held on by both, no problems, and if I am to be honest, the Campys rust more.howtostretchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16217530853178611367noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14309647478028781652009-01-08T11:44:00.000-05:002009-01-08T11:44:00.000-05:00In my experience, QR slip in the rear tends to be ...In my experience, QR slip in the rear tends to be on the starboard side, because of the forces of the drive train. The port side will stay where it is.<BR/>mbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-56449273529858908752009-01-08T11:39:00.000-05:002009-01-08T11:39:00.000-05:00Showing my ignorance- what's the difference with a...Showing my ignorance- what's the difference with and exposed cam? They look the same as my cheapo shimano ones (apologies for bad language) ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65707562939287122342009-01-08T05:35:00.000-05:002009-01-08T05:35:00.000-05:00The Campy Nuevo Record skewers with their heavy pl...The Campy Nuevo Record skewers with their heavy plating were in my opinion the best skewers ever made. That is why a mint set sells for ridiculous prices on eBay. Back in the mid 1980's Specialized attempted to copy this design verbatim but did not do as well of job with the plating or the quality of the steel. No other company attempted a truly faithful copy of this legendary design. Sure there were poor knock-offs but nothing even close to the real NR quick release. <BR/><BR/>With that said those classic Simplex QR's are mighty nice. Almost too nice to put on a daily rider though.<BR/><BR/>There have been some interesting QR designs over the recent years including metals such as titanium but in the end the classic Campy NR stands atop the heap. I wish they would re issue them.<BR/><BR/>PhillipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com