tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post3254639302625033579..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: New BrakesVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1464065504364430402008-05-23T09:15:00.000-04:002008-05-23T09:15:00.000-04:00X2 on the above. I can't think of a current produc...X2 on the above. I can't think of a current production top shelf 57mm caliper brake either. There are many bikes custom built with tire/fender clearance needs, outfitted with the best of the best. Right now the only choices are canti's or Paul Racer center pulls. <BR/><BR/>Given a choice, wouldn't a bike like this: <BR/>http://www.mariposabicycles.com/bike-for-mountains.html<BR/>have been spec'd with something far more refined? Just one example of using Tektro's because nothing better was available.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5095284038928378542008-05-17T10:06:00.000-04:002008-05-17T10:06:00.000-04:00Chris,Current offerings in 57mm side or dual pivot...Chris,<BR/><BR/>Current offerings in 57mm side or dual pivot calipers are all in the "mid-fi" range. Your Rando frame is standard with Paul Racer center pulls. Why not really "go for it" and come up with a no holds barred, cost no object 57mm side pull? <BR/><BR/>The market for NOS Campy normal reach calipers is $350 a pair or more. Nobody is offering the custom market a high end choice in the category. There are several boutique brands fashioning short reach calipers for the gram counting crowd. Why not commission one of them to make a 57mm offering? You'd be the only game in town! (for a while)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63365121651983510682008-05-12T16:00:00.000-04:002008-05-12T16:00:00.000-04:00silver barrel adjusters are easy enough to scroung...silver barrel adjusters are easy enough to scrounge off of old rear mechs. my old 105s have salvaged silver barrel adjusters, and work well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63073052083718757392008-05-12T13:14:00.000-04:002008-05-12T13:14:00.000-04:00Yeah, ditch the black parts and I'd be very intere...Yeah, ditch the black parts and I'd be very interested. Looks like a great brake, Chris!<BR/><BR/>--KarlK Matthiashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10302994067650991669noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34784656273518370432008-05-10T09:38:00.000-04:002008-05-10T09:38:00.000-04:00I'll second JimG's thought - the QR should provide...I'll second JimG's thought - the QR should provide a greater delta - open/closed for max tire clearance.<BR/><BR/>I would also vote for a cast in or engraved "Velo Orange" on the forward arm to add to, IMO, the visual appeal. But please, no painted on model or logo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53619569102890527352008-05-09T11:45:00.000-04:002008-05-09T11:45:00.000-04:00I like that Nutty idea, too! All that's really req...I like that Nutty idea, too! All that's really required is a nutted brake that has more threads on the bolt, and an allen type nut included. Then the length of the bolt need only be trimmed to the proper length. If the installer does not have a hacksaw and a file, it's an easy job for any good bike shop. Some would no doubt be put off by the threads extending into places they "shouldn't" on an older frame, but there's always someone worrying about trivial matters. :)Some Guy on the Innernetshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13374415771586647422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-75820573589825428142008-05-09T11:33:00.000-04:002008-05-09T11:33:00.000-04:00I agree with "Nutty" that a kitof bolts to convert...I agree with "Nutty" that a kit<BR/>of bolts to convert allen mount<BR/>brakes to nutted would be very<BR/>helpful. Good idea Nutty. <BR/>PrestonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54321178396918133432008-05-09T09:57:00.000-04:002008-05-09T09:57:00.000-04:00Many of the things Chris sells have only been avai...Many of the things Chris sells have only been available in the past on a "catch as catch can" basis, and he has done a great job of making them more available. The supply part of his business (and Riv and many others) is the thing that keeps most people from even trying to sell the stuff. It'll drive a person nuts trying to stay on top of it. It's almost like buying handmade jewelry. Tourists are advised "If you see it and you like it, then you'd better buy it, because you probably won't see it again."<BR/><BR/>I'm just happy Chris is able to offer the things he does.Some Guy on the Innernetshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13374415771586647422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-91983127973442489732008-05-09T02:15:00.000-04:002008-05-09T02:15:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jonah Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00963108923903039079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51998267648559880982008-05-09T02:14:00.000-04:002008-05-09T02:14:00.000-04:00I'd like to cast a vote for a nice pair of non aer...I'd like to cast a vote for a nice pair of non aero brake levers as wellJonah Grayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00963108923903039079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53915463477116353462008-05-08T20:33:00.000-04:002008-05-08T20:33:00.000-04:00I really love the products you source and create, ...I really love the products you source and create, your prices are great as well... I just wish you could keep things in stock or give a notice when you decide to stop stocking something... <BR/>You no longer offer "Grand Bois" tires in almost any sizes.. the B&M lights are no longer offered with a standlight but no switch (for people with bottle dynamo's) <BR/>If people are not buying something and you chose to not restock or if you are running low or its a difficult product to source, a little note on your blog here would be very very helpful (the grand bois tires are near impossible to find)<BR/>-EanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48453392168339295572008-05-08T18:52:00.000-04:002008-05-08T18:52:00.000-04:00Most market research isn't honestly asking custome...Most market research isn't honestly asking customers for what is best for them. Most market research asks how they can make the most money off of 'suckers'. (my opinion). I love Chris's Velo Orange. I was happy to see it appear after MomoVelo went under. I have a few of my own ideas I might send Chris's way. Ideas I don't have the money or resources to patent and have produced in quantity. I can hide these ideas away, or share them with my fellow cyclotourists, who have shared with me.<BR/><BR/>I don't have a cycle that uses these brakes. When I was a freestyling kid, the bomb brake was the ACS BOA. It used ball bearings. I think the person who wanted ultra reach brakes could look toward the bmx world. Dia Compe also makes a nice centerpull, the 990 long reach. I think a quality non-aero lever, another Gran Compe copy, would probabaly be successful. And I'm still rooting for tastefully colored tires. At least natural. ciao!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88333509254697113632008-05-08T13:29:00.000-04:002008-05-08T13:29:00.000-04:00Redesign the q/r lever so the brakes open up super...Redesign the q/r lever so the brakes open up super wide to clear fat tires, ala the q/r design on some of the newer Tektro brakes like the R556. Also make 'em in both nutted and recessed mounting styles. And whatever else you do, spec 'em with salmon Koolstop pads.jim ghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02161517903295268167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-37219080399737128732008-05-08T12:00:00.000-04:002008-05-08T12:00:00.000-04:00All I see when I look at these brakes is a breachi...All I see when I look at these brakes is a breaching whale. Sorry to be such a dissident. But it's a breaching whale!<BR/><BR/>http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGS/Shared/StaticFiles/animals/images/primary/humpback-whales-breaching.jpglnordic_68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16681928489719451333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-33682527243018180992008-05-08T09:40:00.000-04:002008-05-08T09:40:00.000-04:00I appreciate it when people like Preston sign thei...I appreciate it when people like Preston sign their posts. It contributes so much to sense of community to have a person attached to the thought. It carries so much more weight than just "Anonyme". From their writing style, I can tell some of our Anonymes are regular posters. Others just seems to jump in, lob a shot across the bow and then retreat to their caves again. <BR/><BR/>Thank you.Gunnar Berghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17451985764040900726noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65934527143004319172008-05-08T08:42:00.000-04:002008-05-08T08:42:00.000-04:00I am assuming these new brakes are made in the "re...I am assuming these new brakes are made in the "recessed" allen nut style. Is there anyway to get an adapter "kit" made so us knuckle draggers who still ride old bikes can install these new brakes on our trusty steeds? Yes, we may have to drill the holes to make them bigger for some longer recessed allen nuts or something, but let's come up with something, anything. Nobody makes regular nutted brakes anymore, and foraging around for old parts is a hassle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41082004554661297772008-05-08T00:18:00.000-04:002008-05-08T00:18:00.000-04:00Chris, I would prefer silver hardware,but the bl...Chris,<BR/> I would prefer silver hardware,<BR/>but the black is O.K. Just as long<BR/>as they work well, I'm happy.<BR/> PrestonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59602320828136259322008-05-07T17:22:00.000-04:002008-05-07T17:22:00.000-04:00'You know, most capitalists pay for market researc...'You know, most capitalists pay for market research, rather than asking their customers to pay for it.'<BR/><BR/>Actually, customers do pay for it. that's what the 'Value Added' is. It's more transparent here. Shimano does it with athletes and factory workers, SRAM does too, as well as every single other company in the world.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-50573387996704275162008-05-07T13:15:00.000-04:002008-05-07T13:15:00.000-04:00I think they look great , I support chris in his e...I think they look great , I support chris in his efforts to create different useful parts .. I am just finishing up my peuguot rebuild and he had the simplex parts that I needed, he is a hero in my mind just for having those parts . keep up the great work chris , I surf your site daily ..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36346237455032643722008-05-07T12:12:00.000-04:002008-05-07T12:12:00.000-04:00If you can source this with the little bits in met...If you can source this with the little bits in metal, that would be much nicer than the plastic. Black bits would be fine. All IMO of course.<BR/><BR/>One small item: I'd verify that the hardware fastening the cable is well-designed. I had a set of sidepulls where the groove where the cable rests was machined too deep. Thus, it was impossible to get adequate pressure on the cable... I just bolted down the cable on the opposite side, but was none too happy to do so.Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16406828946050994235noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53881644743693429172008-05-07T11:00:00.000-04:002008-05-07T11:00:00.000-04:00I use the Tektro R556 on most of my bikes. It's so...I use the Tektro R556 on most of my bikes. It's something like 55-73. I have no problems with it (it's the best I've used, actually) but it's nice to have options, and I'm sure VO would make darn nice one. And while you're at it, why not add a little extra reach? Even if VO doesn't want to build bikes for long reach brakes, I know many of your customers would still have use for them. A 32mm tire is too skinny for my tastes, even on the road. <BR/>Also, make it with interchangeable bolts for both nutted and allen frames.<BR/>A nice single pivot, like superfreak suggested would be nice, too, but it doesn't make a huge difference to me.<BR/>Keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25716237039715933702008-05-07T10:36:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:36:00.000-04:00Why not anodize them? Does anodizing cause them t...Why not anodize them? Does anodizing cause them to lose some of their ability to shine?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7183221818220984392008-05-07T10:09:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:09:00.000-04:00Chris will the SKS 45mm fenders fitwithout touchin...Chris will the SKS 45mm fenders fit<BR/>without touching ?<BR/>I ended up using Riv Silvers on a bike designed for 57mm brakes just to get a wide enough brake arch for 45mm fenders with GB 30mm tires. The high leverage qr on the Silvers is good too.<BR/><BR/>Scott G.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-46134177069510345902008-05-07T10:08:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:08:00.000-04:00Maybe it's just the picture, but to me it looks a ...Maybe it's just the picture, but to me it looks a little cheap. Not at all like the other VO stuff, which looks great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-84375679955360158582008-05-07T10:03:00.000-04:002008-05-07T10:03:00.000-04:00i prefer single pivots, simpler, better looking an...<B>i prefer single pivots, simpler, better looking and prolly cheaper to manufacture so i pass on these brakes chris</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com