tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post2381308278889881906..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Designing a New Saddle Bag SupportVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-11451255165239794332013-01-31T01:55:05.844-05:002013-01-31T01:55:05.844-05:00What I'd like to have is something that clamps...What I'd like to have is something that clamps to the seatpost (not the rails) and has some sort of simple, low-key, quick release, so I can quickly and easily take my bag with me.Karlnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-30133195328471091022009-06-14T06:31:47.943-04:002009-06-14T06:31:47.943-04:00I think the post mount is a good idea. Seat rails ...I think the post mount is a good idea. Seat rails are for clamping the seat . . . I tend to also prefer bolts for a mount. QR's are just a bit too much hardware clogging up the space in there . . . I've used them for post mounted racks, fenders, and trailerbikes, etc. The convenience to me seems overshadowed by the annoyance of having that chunk of metal between your thighs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-18162047819500081362009-06-10T06:04:53.415-04:002009-06-10T06:04:53.415-04:00For those who think that a big bag negates the nee...For those who think that a big bag negates the need for a support - consider us short bastards. Even a small bag like the Barley rubs the tyre or fender on my bikes.<br /><br />The Bagman is ridiculously overpriced so I'm sure VO can come up with a better and cheaper solution.Andrew Fhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08917065225850153006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17762290574032303732009-06-10T02:18:42.837-04:002009-06-10T02:18:42.837-04:00Whether or not it's bolted or quick release, I...Whether or not it's bolted or quick release, I'd love to have something that's easily mounted and transferred between three bikes. More importantly however, it has to LOOK clean and minimal even if there's no bag there at all (thinking of big clunky quick release gizmos...makes me gag).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20220044626517754442009-06-09T19:07:58.177-04:002009-06-09T19:07:58.177-04:00something I can use to keep my nelson longflap out...something I can use to keep my nelson longflap out of the tire. I have a nitto "mark's rack" from rivendell, which works good Ok, but at $90 per rack, I have to pick which bike gets the support and which uses the fender. (oh, hello dented aluminum!)<br /><br />Something with an adjustable angle, or even two attachment points for height/angle and a little hoop to keep the bag off the tire are all I need. It would be nice if it was light, but that's secondary to works.<br /><br />I do like the support of a rack, and something which can mimic that without the fuss and expense of installing a rack, and with a tire and seatpost hugging profile to stay stable and out of the way is what I need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-52580707278538529762009-06-09T17:52:05.225-04:002009-06-09T17:52:05.225-04:00I like the idea of a "rear decaleur." I...I like the idea of a "rear decaleur." It could mount to the seatpost with two allen-head bolts, as others have suggested. But, like the front decaleur, it could not only offer easy bag removal, it could also provide mounting slots for those who ride Brooks Professional and other saddles that don't have bag loops.Justine Valinottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17020182789784551402009-06-09T14:28:12.039-04:002009-06-09T14:28:12.039-04:00The Nashbar mini front rack can be used on the rea...The Nashbar mini front rack can be used on the rear mounted to canti studs or with P-clamps. The new Axiom Phoenix DLX front could probably work the same way, though I haven't used on myself. The axiom one is silver aluminum with a wood mini deck, pretty nice looking, if expensive.jimmytheflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060952522546330342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-35787195762290143472009-06-09T12:24:15.784-04:002009-06-09T12:24:15.784-04:00I've wondered if the Nitto R-10 could be used ...I've wondered if the Nitto R-10 could be used with rack eyelets. Or assuming it could, whether the strut angle would be too acute to offer meaningful support.<br /><br />They're priced above my "buy one to satisfy my curiosity" threshhold, so it remains a mystery.John Ellsworthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14005172939345684120noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65271088329415146792009-06-09T12:03:06.484-04:002009-06-09T12:03:06.484-04:00NO QR.NO QR.Inspector Javerthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15445080680512417960noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-889300770462238122009-06-09T09:36:52.229-04:002009-06-09T09:36:52.229-04:00Many, even most, frames don't have canti-brake...Many, even most, frames don't have canti-brakes or rack bosses. In fact most rando frames have neither.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1320084368966663922009-06-09T09:22:32.909-04:002009-06-09T09:22:32.909-04:00To Wayne's idea... something that uses the can...To Wayne's idea... something that uses the canti posts or rear rack braze-ons and ties into the seat post clamp for stability, utilizing the existing QR lever or allen bolt. Happy to sketch it for you.Jaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47156952884531513252009-06-09T05:23:21.031-04:002009-06-09T05:23:21.031-04:00I use a Nelson longflap on my commuter. I am luck...I use a Nelson longflap on my commuter. I am lucky enough never to have had problems with either it hitting my thights or swaying to much. Generally it holds my sandwich box, a change of clothes and sometimes shoes or shopping (beer!). After a large number of years, my old bag wore out and I bought a new one plus the bagman support. Other than providing a stable platform when overstuffing the bag, I don't think the support gives me a great deal. I prefer the bag strapped to the seat post. If the seat straps and post strap are done tightly enough there is little sway. I am lucky enough to live in an area where I don't need to worry about theft too much.<br /><br />And seeing as I'm only 20 odd miles from the Carradice factory, not only am I buying British, I am buying local as well!Tim Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03277034044977018254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15289690164158692252009-06-09T00:14:43.621-04:002009-06-09T00:14:43.621-04:00I have been longing for something that uses existi...I have been longing for something that uses existing rack braze-ons and canti posts.Wayne Myerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01063867040301476722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65130825927528077132009-06-08T22:06:00.255-04:002009-06-08T22:06:00.255-04:00I like being able to remove one of these things qu...I like being able to remove one of these things quickly. Maybe if the mounting bolts were somehow "captured" in the mount much like derailleur mounting bolt. This would make it a lot more convenient to remount and also keep together when off the bike.robatsuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07641711964135698976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65244918670810726812009-06-08T20:02:20.573-04:002009-06-08T20:02:20.573-04:00Yeah, what we need( i.e. what I want)is more of a ...Yeah, what we need( i.e. what I want)is more of a saddlebag decauler. <br /><br />Rigid or semi-rigid element that is permanently attached to the bag, and a small element that is permanently attached to the post or saddle rails or both. Then some sort of tool-less quick release to join the two.<br /><br />I don't want to leave any sort of bag attached to my bike while it's locked up downtown.Typenschild Deletenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41398553189116283232009-06-08T19:59:15.930-04:002009-06-08T19:59:15.930-04:00That bad in the picture is my style. Well made and...That bad in the picture is my style. Well made and functional. It worth every cent as long as it meets my simple requirement.Doolio Conteugiaeunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65565955495549137002009-06-08T18:35:05.451-04:002009-06-08T18:35:05.451-04:00Carradice made (possibly makes but they seem to be...Carradice made (possibly makes but they seem to be out of stock at most outlets) what it calls an SQR bag and mounting system. An attachment device mounts to the saddle post. The bag - a pretty large one at that - snaps on and off.<br /><br />I bought one without stopping to think that the custom I was riding at the time was designed to have a more traditional close to frame saddle. I could not use it and wound up selling it to someone. The new owner really likes it. He even used it as his only on bike pack for a two week credit card tour in Southern France and Northern Italy<br /><br />I now have a bike that could use the snap on pack and cannot find one anywhere. So I would certainly be interested to see how this design works out.Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47240676927560175112009-06-08T18:02:31.584-04:002009-06-08T18:02:31.584-04:00I agree with Johnson: two bolts is the way to go....I agree with Johnson: two bolts is the way to go. And John is right, too: an eyelet for a blinky.<br /><br />If you make the support, I will buy one.Justine Valinottinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7579145949345124982009-06-08T17:45:19.537-04:002009-06-08T17:45:19.537-04:00Ian, why not a long straw sticking out of the hand...Ian, why not a long straw sticking out of the handlebar bag? Delicious, nutritious, and cheaper than a Vegomatic. :-)Le Cagotnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-50866810913677975012009-06-08T17:19:51.843-04:002009-06-08T17:19:51.843-04:00stevep33:
The problem that I've had with the ...stevep33:<br /><br />The problem that I've had with the blinky loop on my Carradice is that, depending on how full the bag is, the light might point sharply up or down. It's a nice feature, but I wouldn't use it for a primary taillight. <br /><br />Slightly off-topic:<br /><br />I've just switched from relying on a large saddlebag to using a handlebar bag with a front rack. I prefer the handlebar bag in every way but one. With a Carradice, I can carry delicate things (like fruit) without any special protection. My handlebar bag, on the other hand, tends to juice the fruit right in its skin. Does anyone have any set-up suggestions that might help?<br /><br />Thanks.Ian Dicksonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14721391514711042385noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-54339158577388025552009-06-08T16:49:25.990-04:002009-06-08T16:49:25.990-04:00I assume that the quick release idea would mean th...I assume that the quick release idea would mean that the saddlebag is attached completely to the support, so that removing the support will also remove the saddlebag? Otherwise, I don't see much use for a quick release. The saddlebag is what needs to be easy to remove, not the support. <br /><br />To address other comments, the caradice nelson is a great bag, but whether or not it needs a support has a lot to do with frame geometry. I would have to use at least 3 airborne bottle to keep mine from hitting my legs. <br /><br />For the suggestion about a support directly over the tire, a wrapping of string making a web for the bag to sit on would be easy and cheap.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13627467397761043521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-51164764633970001502009-06-08T16:45:28.789-04:002009-06-08T16:45:28.789-04:00Folks need to try an Ostrich bag with a support to...Folks need to try an Ostrich bag with a support to see just how solid a saddle bag can be. I also own a Longflap that I never use because I'm spoiled by the Ostrich and don't care for the Longflap swaying and bouncing on a rough road.<br /><br />The reason I like the idea of a quick release is that I see a large saddle bag as just for occasional overflow from the handlebar bag, not something I'd leave on a bike. But obviously some like to use them all the time.<br />Perhaps we need two versions?Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62233609787248339102009-06-08T16:34:58.120-04:002009-06-08T16:34:58.120-04:00What Brian said. Make the bag right and it won...What Brian said. Make the bag right and it won't need a support.patates friteshttp://www.patates.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-81251939416376299122009-06-08T16:00:40.627-04:002009-06-08T16:00:40.627-04:00Another vote for 2 bolts vs. cam. Simpler, cheaper...Another vote for 2 bolts vs. cam. Simpler, cheaper, lighter. And don't most of us carry a 4/5/6 anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-53149688417224454402009-06-08T15:56:33.888-04:002009-06-08T15:56:33.888-04:00It would be cool if you could build in some kind o...It would be cool if you could build in some kind of mechanism to adjust how far back from the seat the bag sits. Saddlebags often hit my thighs when I ride, and so I don't like them. Adjustability could solve that issue.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04892849214745806826noreply@blogger.com