tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post2226795293629559278..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Raid RimsVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-6982018069741403122011-04-16T10:37:26.939-04:002011-04-16T10:37:26.939-04:00Just rcvd these rims for my Surly LHT. The LBS own...Just rcvd these rims for my Surly LHT. The LBS owners were drooling over them when they came in. They will look great with my VO hammered fenders and dyno.Terrell Dornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01621372133661218359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-80561641555214291312011-03-20T20:39:58.829-04:002011-03-20T20:39:58.829-04:00I don't have much experience with some of the ...I don't have much experience with some of the other rims mentioned, but I did just build up a wheelset for my commuter bike with the RAID rims, and they are fantastic! The build was super-easy, the rims look fantastic laced to a dynohub and IGH, and they hold my 36mm Schwalbe's perfectly! Another plus for VO's approach! I hope they keep finding things to make me spend money on I didn't know I needed!Matthewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00465307947283277717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-56905630441457276962011-03-11T08:54:31.520-05:002011-03-11T08:54:31.520-05:00Could you put the internal widths of the rims on t...Could you put the internal widths of the rims on the site? This is an important dimension for determining what tires will fit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12599930935219239262011-02-10T20:19:16.449-05:002011-02-10T20:19:16.449-05:00The competition for these rims by my estimation ar...The competition for these rims by my estimation are the mavic a719, the open pro and the dt swiss rr 1.1. Alex makes the r 390. The alex is double eyeletted but l-eh-ow quality. The open pro and rr 1.1 are great, but skinny and expensive. Like 20-30 clams more expensive. The A719 is heavy, and expensive and looks like the raid's dirty cousin. I can't wait to lace these up and give my MA 40's a well deserved rest. Thanks for the polish!james hunter mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01318492721697535061noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59786158605386207832011-01-24T17:21:18.554-05:002011-01-24T17:21:18.554-05:00Now, if only Velo Orange would make a beautiful 40...Now, if only Velo Orange would make a beautiful 40 hole rim!<br /><br />Any chance of a special prototype one-off Chris!?<br /><br />Have to add also, I've got a set of the VO PBP Polished rims and I can't recommend those highly enough. Perfect if you want a vintage look and aren't keen on buying vintage rims. Their the one part I prefer to avoid buying 'period'!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17836682508257756102011-01-23T16:53:35.338-05:002011-01-23T16:53:35.338-05:00@Anonymous: Perhaps I should have drawn my origina...@Anonymous: Perhaps I should have drawn my original comparison by saying the Raid seems closer to a Mavic Module 3 than to a Mavic MA/MA-2, but I thought more people would be familiar with the Super Champion 58 rather than the relatively obscure Module 3. Also, AFAIK, the Module 3 was only available in a gray, hard anodized finish, which opens another can of worms. BTW, have you ever cycled in the Ozarks?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12421942878477339462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16467036950509145152011-01-23T16:03:05.351-05:002011-01-23T16:03:05.351-05:00@ Ozark Bicycle Service - "I think it best to...@ Ozark Bicycle Service - "I think it best to group rims by intended use rather than by construction details."<br /><br />Sure, the Raid looks like it is geared for wider tires & touring like a Super Champion 58. Still, the construction is much more like an MA-2 and very different than a Super Champion 58. BTW, I love the Ozarks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-56297997699897415312011-01-23T15:41:20.211-05:002011-01-23T15:41:20.211-05:00@ "Anonymous":Given the width, which det...@ "Anonymous":Given the width, which determines tire compatability, and the weight, the Raid seems to me to be a rim intended for use in "touring" applications, much like a Super Champion Model 58. A Mavic MA/MA-2 was both lighter and narrower; a rim best used in a 'sport touring' application with somewhat narrower tires. I think it best to group rims by intended use rather than by construction details. In any case, the Raid seems an attractive product and an "upmarket" alternative to a Sun CR-18. (I would not consider it as an alternative to a Mavic Open Pro, which is the lineal descendant of the Mavic MA/MA-2).Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12421942878477339462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-57443274900829136332011-01-23T14:59:10.810-05:002011-01-23T14:59:10.810-05:00"@Peter C- the Raid seems closer to a Super C..."@Peter C- the Raid seems closer to a Super Champion Model 58 than to a Mavic MA or MA-2."<br /><br />The Super Champion 58 rim is NOT a box section rim like the Raid and the MA-2. So, the Raid looks more like a wider MA-2 than the Super Champion 58 rim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-9517879697900240222011-01-23T09:06:50.300-05:002011-01-23T09:06:50.300-05:00Well, I'm going to get a pair. Save a few of t...Well, I'm going to get a pair. Save a few of them to your British distributor(s?).Johannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88711052521050869062011-01-22T18:19:17.633-05:002011-01-22T18:19:17.633-05:00@Peter C- the Raid seems closer to a Super Champio...@Peter C- the Raid seems closer to a Super Champion Model 58 than to a Mavic MA or MA-2.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12421942878477339462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-49709052636019237482011-01-22T16:58:10.644-05:002011-01-22T16:58:10.644-05:00If you want a cheap rim, get a Sunrims CR18, guys....If you want a cheap rim, get a Sunrims CR18, guys. Those are cheap and good. This rim is nicer than that. It's probably nicer than the Velocity rims which run about $70 that last time I (unfortunately) bought a pair.dougnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-10916497601712466182011-01-22T14:39:57.708-05:002011-01-22T14:39:57.708-05:00Finally a replacement for the Mavic MA2. It looks ...Finally a replacement for the Mavic MA2. It looks terrific. An offset spoke bed on a rim with double eyelets might be difficult. However if it is possible, I would be happy to buy several, and never have to buy another rim.PeterCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64629204186901739112011-01-21T23:30:36.655-05:002011-01-21T23:30:36.655-05:00Thanks for sharing, Retail Genius. We were all on ...Thanks for sharing, Retail Genius. We were all on the edge of our seat, waiting to find out what you were going to do.Justinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-47077996609902734242011-01-21T22:10:57.476-05:002011-01-21T22:10:57.476-05:00Velo Orange, ignore the haters. This looks like a ...Velo Orange, ignore the haters. This looks like a great rim at a fair price!<br /><br />James BlackJames Blacknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-58453007490559766162011-01-21T14:11:18.029-05:002011-01-21T14:11:18.029-05:00I will wait til the inevitable drop in price. Good...I will wait til the inevitable drop in price. Good luck to all those who become the first to own these new and 'improved' wheels. I am never one to rush out and buy something at full cost just for the sake of doing so.Retail Geniusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-26320950633576373922011-01-21T12:08:18.552-05:002011-01-21T12:08:18.552-05:00Our published weight is a few grams more than the ...Our published weight is a few grams more than the Grand Bois and other rims on the market, most of which are designed for different purposes. This is due most visibly to double eyelets, a slight increase in outside width, and possibly the specification of the rim walls. <br /><br />There's a bit more meat in the sidewalls and inner wall in the Raid. Lighter rims often reduce the wall thickness of these areas, which makes brake surface life much shorter. A thinner brake track is fine for disc equipped bikes and fixies, but not for bikes that require a braking surface at the rim. <br />A slightly thicker spoke bed surface also makes building wheels a lot easier too. The rim doesn't move to every little tweak of spoke tension during the build. Less tension rounds and less truing make for a less complicated build and a stronger wheel overall. <br /><br />For a loaded tour an additional 10-20 double eyeleted grams at the wheel is good insurance. The fact that a loaded touring bike probably has 40-60lbs strapped on it sort of negates the weight savings of what amounts to a handful of paperclips.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01015305191743399671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-86676973759793781832011-01-21T09:48:09.969-05:002011-01-21T09:48:09.969-05:00Message to "hey dude" - dude, 30-40 gra...Message to "hey dude" - dude, 30-40 grams are longevity. Less rim = less wear.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20167533057536676652011-01-21T08:01:21.107-05:002011-01-21T08:01:21.107-05:00I'm with @heydude; that 30-40 grams per rim is...I'm with @heydude; that 30-40 grams per rim is even worse for my Average Speed than having $0.55 in change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-61406399241838632352011-01-21T00:48:26.918-05:002011-01-21T00:48:26.918-05:00the rims look great but the weight alone not to me...the rims look great but the weight alone not to mention price will keep me from buying. other rim manufacturers make a similar rim that weighs 30-40 grams less per rim.hey dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01699131817238696845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24411567470914406332011-01-20T20:04:58.695-05:002011-01-20T20:04:58.695-05:00Compared to what's out there and the quality, ...Compared to what's out there and the quality, the price seems fair. I second the suggestion for an offset rim. I've always liked the concept, but never liked the look of the ones that are out there. An offset RAID would be great.latronnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45976150287250385132011-01-20T19:32:25.744-05:002011-01-20T19:32:25.744-05:00Weight?
Thanks!Weight?<br />Thanks!webnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41617710070285924582011-01-20T19:32:00.090-05:002011-01-20T19:32:00.090-05:00I have been building my 700c wheels with Mavic A71...I have been building my 700c wheels with Mavic A719 rims.These new ones look very nice!dwainedibblynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-76892834567396576952011-01-20T18:38:46.886-05:002011-01-20T18:38:46.886-05:00Chris, your frankness and honest approach are quit...Chris, your frankness and honest approach are quite refreshing; I can't imagine many other sellers describing one of their products as "a little dear"(even when they are more than a little dear!). IMO, the Raid rims are a decent value in today's market and a worthwhile addition to the marketplace. Kudos! Richard Malesweski/Ozark Bicycle ServiceUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12421942878477339462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-50445095700840705752011-01-20T17:42:33.323-05:002011-01-20T17:42:33.323-05:00***Product Request***
Not trying to hijack this t...***Product Request***<br /><br />Not trying to hijack this thread, but would love to see VO source some replacement screws for Simplex retrofriction shifters. Those big flat blade screwdriver slots are always chewed up on otherwise perfectly nice shifters. If not VO, is there another source? New racks and rims look nice! Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com