tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post1480035960369056625..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Nutted BrakesVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-70739752499580054082013-06-19T17:05:04.715-04:002013-06-19T17:05:04.715-04:00I understand that one can order Tektro A900's ...I understand that one can order Tektro A900's remove the bolt and use that in place of the bolt on any of their brakes, it adds about 25$ to the cost of their brakes, but add's a lot of flexibility in lengths. The Nutted versions everyone has for sale are too long for my wives Teledyne Titan, and they mostly look terrible. The single pivots that it has are horrid and do not fit the level of components on her bike.<br /><br />This guy has done it with some r556's: <br />http://www.kurtkaminer.com/tektro_nutted_r556.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-76857503274516165982010-09-22T07:15:47.308-04:002010-09-22T07:15:47.308-04:00Any chance of getting a 39-49 mm brake with the nu...Any chance of getting a 39-49 mm brake with the nutted bolt as well? Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36970015115459889242009-08-30T20:35:05.657-04:002009-08-30T20:35:05.657-04:00I just retrofitted a pair of the R556 to a 71 Supe...I just retrofitted a pair of the R556 to a 71 Supercourse using the front in the rear(radiussed washers and a nut) and rear in the front(feed allen nut up fork crown, put allen wrench through back and tighten down), no drilling. Although I might get a pair of the nutted version so I can use a crown/brake mounted rack I still had plenty of threads for fenders.<br />I also wanted to say that going from Dia Compe 750 centerpulls to the x-long reach brakes w/pads all the way down was a major improvement. No more rear ends. <br />I don't know why more people are not making/selling the nutted version but I am guessing these will be a hot seller, Thanks Chris and Tektro. <br />Any plans to get a shorter reach version?, I've got a Raleigh Professional I was thinking putting some gears on and would need shorter brake for back.Wingahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11217069477221804106noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19622501329804014072009-08-27T17:09:50.934-04:002009-08-27T17:09:50.934-04:00Dan, The cable housing kits are now in production....Dan, The cable housing kits are now in production. New products take at least 3 months to get, 5 or 6 months is more typical. That's after the the design phase.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20815542498480538792009-08-27T17:02:10.819-04:002009-08-27T17:02:10.819-04:00You mentioned a while back that you would have bra...You mentioned a while back that you would have brake cable and housing sets in different colors, whatever happened to that, are they still in the pipeline?<br /><br />DanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22895426193706209362009-08-27T10:46:53.624-04:002009-08-27T10:46:53.624-04:00Speaking of tire size conversions and brake issues...Speaking of tire size conversions and brake issues, have you ever thought about making something in the style of the Paul Components Moto BMX brake that would allow for easy 27" to 700c conversions on touring bikes with cantilever studs? Sometimes this just works by adjusting the angle of the pad, but more precise adjustment would be great.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12652826844421910861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14138855142655505862009-08-26T22:10:21.289-04:002009-08-26T22:10:21.289-04:00Can you look into importing the Tektro R900A?
htt...Can you look into importing the Tektro R900A?<br /><br />http://www.tektro.com/02products/07rb.php<br /><br />They'd be perfect for conversions where you need gobs of brake reach!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-24069385206266063362009-08-26T21:51:42.123-04:002009-08-26T21:51:42.123-04:00Oops... I said "Le Route." I meant &quo...Oops... I said "Le Route." I meant "Le Tour". Same letters, different order. Extra E. :)Scott Reddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13769134824821490457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-34467221219799941552009-08-26T19:10:29.576-04:002009-08-26T19:10:29.576-04:00I ordered the 556 brakes from Amazon a while back ...I ordered the 556 brakes from Amazon a while back and got the recessed nut version. If I had to do it over again, I would probably get your nutted version.<br /><br />My idea was convert a 1976 Schwinn Le Route II to 650B. However, the fork mounting hole and the seat stay bridge were pretty high up. I couldn't get the reach I needed to use my 650B wheels. However, the reach is fine for 700C, which I used to replace the 27 inch wheels.<br /><br />I did have to drill out the back of the fork mounting hole, as well as use a Dremel tool on the rear brake mounting bar. I saved the curved washers from the stock brakes to make for a perfect fit.<br /><br />The shiny Tektro brakes look great, still provide ample clearance for fenders, and best of all, give stopping power to a bike that barely had any with its 1970s brakes.<br /><br />My results can <a href="http://redd-shift.blogspot.com/2009/07/schwinn-le-tour-ii-restoration-phase-3.html" rel="nofollow">be seen here</a>.Scott Reddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13769134824821490457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-7045150012684806892009-08-26T12:38:58.200-04:002009-08-26T12:38:58.200-04:00Great. I tried to get the UK Tektro importer to ge...Great. I tried to get the UK Tektro importer to get some of these but they weren't interested. SJS got their nutted 556's direct from Tektro.<br /><br />I think the long front nutted Tektro bolts will also fit the Shimano R450 & R650 dual pivots, so it might be worth stocking these bolts as spares.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59948236555294576312009-08-26T12:16:24.215-04:002009-08-26T12:16:24.215-04:00p.s.
Bolts as spares would also be handy for conve...p.s.<br />Bolts as spares would also be handy for converting a spare rear brake into a front.Robinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-20949081207757899322009-08-26T10:05:10.892-04:002009-08-26T10:05:10.892-04:00Patate, You simply measure the reach to find the r...Patate, You simply measure the reach to find the right brake, from the center of the hole to the middle of the rim's braking surface.<br /><br />MW, Yes; that's my Le Champion.<br /><br />Andrew, SA has had a production problem with the 8-spd hubs, but they are on the way again and we should have some in a few weeks.<br /><br />Ethan, Thanks. Fixed.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25355761081085538192009-08-26T07:57:33.068-04:002009-08-26T07:57:33.068-04:00Great, this will help save a large fleet of nice o...Great, this will help save a large fleet of nice old steel frames. In the last year I drilled wider holes in my Zeus, Falcon and a son's TREK in order to use the recessed nuts and to improve braking ability. Also ordered an extra set of 556s so I could use the longer bolt on the rear of a '72 Paramount.<br /><br />Oh well, next time...<br />JackAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-63501409793772811162009-08-26T07:22:00.429-04:002009-08-26T07:22:00.429-04:00patates frites said:
You are recommending the lon...patates frites said:<br /><i><br />You are recommending the longer brake for 700C to 650B conversions. There is a huge difference (38mm) between those two sizes. The difference between 27" and 700C is only 8mm. Which of the two new brake models would you recommend for a 27to 700C conversion?<br /></i><br />In terms of reach, 630-622 / 2 = 4, not 8 mm additional reach. It's the radius, not the diameter, you're concerned with. Many bikes were converted by simply moving the brake shoes down, since they were originally built for mid-slot placement.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127635083892565152noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-64347660230345253912009-08-26T04:59:00.140-04:002009-08-26T04:59:00.140-04:00That labelling situation is quickly rectified with...That labelling situation is quickly rectified with either a Brillo pad or a cotton swab with acetone, whichever is closest at hand.<br /><br />yours truly etc.Uncle Anklenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-88366430347595299342009-08-26T01:36:45.411-04:002009-08-26T01:36:45.411-04:00Patates- You've got twice as many millimeters ...Patates- You've got twice as many millimeters as you need there. The difference is, as you state, 38mm and 8mm. But that's overall diameter, so the actual change in brake reach is either 19mm or 4mm. <br /><br />In my experience, there's enough difference in how a frame is built that I always needed to actually measure the current mounting bolt to rim distance, then do the math from that. <br /><br />I've got one bike (with the OEM 700c short-reach calipers) where the front brake has the pads at the top of the slot, and the rear has 'em at the bottom, so even on a frameset there are differences in build precision.jimmytheflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10060952522546330342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5895384195222171512009-08-25T23:59:46.292-04:002009-08-25T23:59:46.292-04:00Even though the design was nearly identical, the W...Even though the design was nearly identical, the Weinmann centerpulls that came with my old Motobecane always seemed to have a firmer feel and more power than the Dia Compes that came on the Nishiki I had back in the day. But the Mafac Racers, as noisy, flexy (and ugly) as they were, easily beat all comers when it came to stopping power.<br /><br />I don't need any nutted brakes now, but I'm glad to see you're having them made. Much as I love older frames, I don't love most older parts. (That was more or less Sheldon Brown's philosophy.) If brakes like the ones you've shown will help to keep some nice older bikes on the road, I'm happy to see them.Justine Valinottihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10852069587181432102noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-10853084251729798382009-08-25T22:39:58.899-04:002009-08-25T22:39:58.899-04:00Fred--
You might have been surprised if you had u...Fred--<br /><br />You might have been surprised if you had used your R800A. It's not pretty, but it does stop well. I have one on my odd <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickrise/3001115354/in/set-72157608880023967/" rel="nofollow">"Pseudobecane"</a>, and it works quite nicely, even with the original pads.<br /><br />I've had great luck with <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickrise/2147019811/in/set-72157603580820989/" rel="nofollow">Dia-Compe 750s</a> as well.<br /><br />V-O's Tektros ought to be really handy for all sorts of conversions.Rick @ Bicycle Fixationhttp://www.bicyclefixation.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1370078756163347892009-08-25T21:27:12.642-04:002009-08-25T21:27:12.642-04:00chris,
is that blue bike perchance a repainted Mo...chris,<br /><br />is that blue bike perchance a repainted Motobecane? I vaguely recognize that fork crown from the 70s. <br /><br />best,<br />michael white<br />(I was in a group of riders who all had Motobecanes around 74. I had the best one, the Le Champion.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-15972099364247160092009-08-25T20:23:41.687-04:002009-08-25T20:23:41.687-04:00minor framebuilding-nerd nitpicking: "...to m...minor framebuilding-nerd nitpicking: "...to modern dual pivot brakes without drilling out the fork crown and seat stay."<br /><br />I believe you meant to refer to the seat stay <i>bridge</i>, not the seat stay itself.Ethan Labowitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18149378864023260471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22944886817410122882009-08-25T18:56:48.378-04:002009-08-25T18:56:48.378-04:00I love seeing all this stuff become available (aga...I love seeing all this stuff become available (again). <br /><br />On another note, are you planning on getting any more of the 8sp SA wheels?Andrew Enoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-30585186598528779602009-08-25T18:51:23.481-04:002009-08-25T18:51:23.481-04:00Patates-
I did a 27" to 700c conversion with ...Patates-<br />I did a 27" to 700c conversion with the longer brake. The pads are allllll the way to the top of the slots. Definitely didn't need that extra reach.<br /><br />Might go ahead made the lady's bike a 650b!J ustin.https://www.blogger.com/profile/14381051517089463268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-55285095372664279622009-08-25T18:30:21.867-04:002009-08-25T18:30:21.867-04:00This is awesome...I've been dragging my heels ...This is awesome...I've been dragging my heels on getting some Tektros for exactly this reason. Problem solved!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-27370837235640650842009-08-25T18:00:44.107-04:002009-08-25T18:00:44.107-04:00This is so awesome. Thank you for doing this, I ha...This is so awesome. Thank you for doing this, I hate the crappy Dia-Compes that I have now, but if I don't want to drill the frame, they were my only option.Joshuahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18165597802325623853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65665604582742060462009-08-25T16:55:21.003-04:002009-08-25T16:55:21.003-04:00You are recommending the longer brake for 700C to ...You are recommending the longer brake for 700C to 650B conversions. There is a huge difference (38mm) between those two sizes. The difference between 27" and 700C is only 8mm. Which of the two new brake models would you recommend for a 27to 700C conversion?patates friteshttp://www.patates.orgnoreply@blogger.com