tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post1229025920514028537..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Sugino PX Cranks Available AgainVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12892938820471302972019-01-15T11:25:16.637-05:002019-01-15T11:25:16.637-05:00@ Tom
I think our 50.4 crank bolts should fit the ...@ Tom<br />I think our 50.4 crank bolts should fit the Sugino PX crank.<br />Scott @ VOVeloOrangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06814029344407654254noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-8422681313458435792019-01-14T03:08:37.483-05:002019-01-14T03:08:37.483-05:00Do you have any information on the chainring screw...Do you have any information on the chainring screws or where can I find them? Thanks!tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03839418620716952500noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48525592221896077062009-08-02T17:01:16.282-04:002009-08-02T17:01:16.282-04:00Hello Chris,
I just signed up for the Everest Chal...Hello Chris,<br />I just signed up for the Everest Challenge out of Bishop CA How do I get a hold of a 48 30 or 46 28 crankset to fit on my 2006 Scattante CFR comp all carbon(PerformanceBikes)which currently has a compact 50 34, 68mm bottom bracket size, 175mm Crank length. External. I'm running Dura Ace cassette 10 speed up to a 27 (don't know the little one). I love to climb and am not much into going fast on straightaways. Thanks much, JohnUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16837101780691083702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-41629669471317319822009-05-12T11:55:00.000-04:002009-05-12T11:55:00.000-04:00With modern flexible chains, chain line is not nea...With modern flexible chains, chain line is not nearly as important as it was in the old days. You can use a single chain ring with 9 or 10 cogs.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-30354667337343454472009-05-12T11:48:00.000-04:002009-05-12T11:48:00.000-04:00The reason you use a triple chainring is to have a...The reason you use a triple chainring is to have as least possible deviation from a the straight chainline. It's common sense. You do not use a triple crank to have more gears! Having a lower Q-Factor does not give you access to more gears to use at the rear setup without distorting your chainline. TA cranksets are best used with the lowest number of rear cogs, keep it to 3 maximum per front chainring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-17563144007795404682008-08-20T14:49:00.000-04:002008-08-20T14:49:00.000-04:00i'm guessing there's another significant benefit t...i'm guessing there's another significant benefit to the PX crank versus the TA:<BR/><BR/>i dont know for sure, but the PX probably uses the "standard" crank threads, no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-87220623169388366382008-08-20T13:34:00.000-04:002008-08-20T13:34:00.000-04:00Will these really work correctly on modern 10-spee...Will these really work correctly on modern 10-speed rigs? The chain is much narrower, and at least with a Campagnolo setup, an older 8-speed crank isn't said to work very well with a 10-speed setup. I thought the chainrings were spaced too far apart and that there was a practical risk of losing the chain in between the rings. Not so?Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-14239374523751468432008-08-19T20:36:00.000-04:002008-08-19T20:36:00.000-04:00"With today's 9 and 10 speed cassettes most folks ..."With today's 9 and 10 speed cassettes most folks do not need triples."<BR/><BR/>Agree.<BR/><BR/>..and some of us favor 50/34 rings with 11-26 cassettes with which we can ascend to our hearts content.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25843206511176757222008-08-19T16:16:00.000-04:002008-08-19T16:16:00.000-04:00first: chainlines are crucial when you have an inf...first: chainlines are crucial when you have an inflexible chain, like a bushing chain, or a 1/8inch track chain. think about your chainline though, with a semi normal 38/52 front ring combo. when is it perfect? in one out of 7-11 gears. that's it. so normally you're running a less than perfect chainline, anyway. The narrowness of the TA-esque crank allows you to run your outer ring in basically the same position as your middle ring. I can use all of my rear cogs with my 46, and not put undue stress on the chain. similarly, when i bail to my 26 tooth, if I keep my chain on the easier cogs, everything is OK. I rarely stand on my bike, and the set up works fine for me. Standing is for singlespeeds, which, while fine, are not the subject at hand.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-45957343962768254492008-08-19T14:11:00.000-04:002008-08-19T14:11:00.000-04:00thanx all for the info on the benefits of the TA &...thanx all for the info on the benefits of the TA & PX, but i mostly ride in my inner 42 double ring or middle 38 triple ring. how am i going to get a reasonably straight chain line riding with a 48/30 or 46/30 double? i'm more of a spinner than a masher.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-55081850141046009912008-08-19T09:31:00.000-04:002008-08-19T09:31:00.000-04:00yes it does. the forging is also thicker than the...yes it does. the forging is also thicker than the TA. maybe 5-7mm wider.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-23284128255117680852008-08-19T01:28:00.000-04:002008-08-19T01:28:00.000-04:00If it has more room between the crank arm and the ...If it has more room between the crank arm and the outer chainring, does it also have a larger Q?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-4309930889544748482008-08-18T21:38:00.000-04:002008-08-18T21:38:00.000-04:00"Exactly, pure vanity. You can keep 'em."Low q-fac..."Exactly, pure vanity. You can keep 'em."<BR/><BR/>Low q-factor. If you don't want it or understand it, fine. But it is ridiculous to dismiss it as pure vanity. One of my bikes came with a Sugino Triple. <BR/><BR/>The triple is on some e-bayer's bike some where. I am perfectly happy with the low q-factor and lighter weight of my double TA that replaced it.<BR/><BR/>As mentioned above, the reason people shell out big bucks for the admittedly lovely White is also the low q-factor. Picking up an nos Nervar or now a PX here at VO is a real deal if this is what you like in a bike.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-22191513039665140822008-08-18T20:08:00.000-04:002008-08-18T20:08:00.000-04:00vanity? um. could we explain that? i have a...vanity? um. could we explain that? i have at least 5 pairs of sugino cranks, a pair of white industries cranks, cook bros RCRs, Nervars, Record Track, and so on. My most comfortable cranks to spin with are my TAs. Next are my Nervars. Next are my SR Apex Touring Cranks. Is it coincidence that these cranks allow a super low q factor? Probally not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-39772060899412515672008-08-18T18:15:00.000-04:002008-08-18T18:15:00.000-04:00Some of you don't get it. With todays 9 and 10...Some of you don't get it. With todays 9 and 10 speed cassettes most folks do not need triples. With a crank like this you can run 48/30 or 46/30 rings (as I do) and handle any reasonable terrain. You can slog up mountains with 30-28 and pedal down hills in 48-12. The advantages include a lower q-factor, less weighs, simpler and less frequent shifting, a simpler drive line, better chain-line, and the priceless feeling that you're smarter than the average bear ;<)<BR/><BR/>There is also a certain elegance in having eliminated a bunch of gearing combinations that you'll almost never use.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-60071571435227137782008-08-18T17:58:00.000-04:002008-08-18T17:58:00.000-04:00Exactly, pure vanity. You can keep 'em.Exactly, pure vanity. You can keep 'em.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-36148745853769233242008-08-18T15:33:00.000-04:002008-08-18T15:33:00.000-04:00Why use a TA or PX:Because your buddies dont have ...Why use a TA or PX:<BR/><BR/>Because your buddies dont have one. <BR/>Because you like a low Q factor<BR/>Because you want an elegant wide range double.<BR/>Because it's a chunk of history<BR/>Because they are light weight<BR/>Because you can run any ring combo you want.<BR/><BR/>But mainly, because your buddies dont have one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-71401463454943669402008-08-18T12:02:00.000-04:002008-08-18T12:02:00.000-04:00i don't understand why anyone buys the pricey ta o...i don't understand why anyone buys the pricey ta or sugino px cranks/rings. why don't you get sugino to do a 110/74 triple that is made for their cheap and readily available flat rings in that size? (the ramped/pinned rings on their current offerings are not available as replacments!?) E.g., a remade AT. As Sheldon sez,<BR/><BR/>The Sugino AT was the first to use the 110 mm/74 mm bolt circle, and was possibly the finest triple crank ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12926294850995428762008-08-17T17:53:00.000-04:002008-08-17T17:53:00.000-04:00Is Sugino the sort of company who will build new m...Is Sugino the sort of company who will build new molds? I still wish they would reissue the Specialized 'flag' cranks, minus the crack-prone webbing.<BR/>mbAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5168206372730415312008-08-17T11:59:00.000-04:002008-08-17T11:59:00.000-04:00I'd love to have a set of those. If they were 170...I'd love to have a set of those. If they were 170mm, I'd be $145 poorer right now.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-65353568204646628432008-08-17T09:23:00.000-04:002008-08-17T09:23:00.000-04:00Chris - you come through again - thanks.Chris - you come through again - thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-28168127686519356382008-08-16T22:38:00.000-04:002008-08-16T22:38:00.000-04:00I was about to post the question, 'Why buy these w...I was about to post the question, 'Why buy these when the Nervar arms look better and come in more sizes?' Fortunately, I took a look and saw they are all gone. Lucky I snapped up a pair. <BR/><BR/>And do not worry 'C' I am using the Nervar. Used them to replace a still very good looking Campy NR set that is now in my trophy case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-79796530118135367042008-08-15T03:17:00.000-04:002008-08-15T03:17:00.000-04:00that's funny. I still have a set that was OEM spec...that's funny. I still have a set that was OEM spec on a crappy 80's mountain bike. The Sugino rings are soft metal that wears out quickly.yankee_dollarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01440582087070295095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-87570922373282480702008-08-15T00:30:00.000-04:002008-08-15T00:30:00.000-04:00Nice to see such a cool product unearthed from a d...Nice to see such a cool product unearthed from a dusty corner. A year ago I woulda been in the market. As it is, I hope you can offer a VO crank that takes advantage of that BCD while improving the design with modern hardware and a reasonable price.<BR/><BR/>For those considering such cranks, a 115mm spindle was too short on my P5V cranks. The chain rubs the crank arm in the 9th cog and big ring...nordic_68https://www.blogger.com/profile/16681928489719451333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-48436617728959502942008-08-14T14:00:00.000-04:002008-08-14T14:00:00.000-04:00How many pairs do you have? Any chance you can lim...How many pairs do you have? Any chance you can limit the number purchased to discourage hoarders?Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10767743759129493752noreply@blogger.com