tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post117019446836169413..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Frame Quality, part 1Velo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170649968351580992007-02-04T23:32:00.000-05:002007-02-04T23:32:00.000-05:00Some pix from the 2007 Japanese Handmade Bike show...Some pix from the 2007 Japanese Handmade Bike show:<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/2nftvc<BR/><BR/>As always, there are some real beauties!<BR/><BR/>nvAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170353639747059182007-02-01T13:13:00.000-05:002007-02-01T13:13:00.000-05:00there's me, then there's the other anonymous guy.M...there's me, then there's the other anonymous guy.<BR/>Moi, I ain't throwin' no spit wads at nobody!! No way, no how, capiche?<BR/><BR/>mwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170350827218290962007-02-01T12:27:00.000-05:002007-02-01T12:27:00.000-05:00If you guys don't quit throwing spit-wads we'll ha...If you guys don't quit throwing spit-wads we'll have to separate you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170348155273400612007-02-01T11:42:00.000-05:002007-02-01T11:42:00.000-05:00easy there, Joel, just kidding. I went to a very g...easy there, Joel, just kidding. I went to a very good school, trust me, but prefer to downplay all that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170340891557541962007-02-01T09:41:00.000-05:002007-02-01T09:41:00.000-05:00You may want to take your University to task if yo...You may want to take your University to task if you cannot see the difference between the critiqued sentence and your example.<BR/><BR/>Parsing. It used to be taught in elemenatary school. Try it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170340133620802432007-02-01T09:28:00.000-05:002007-02-01T09:28:00.000-05:00as a writing professor with English PhD, I ain't g...as a writing professor with English PhD, I ain't got no comment on that. <BR/><BR/>mwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170338692537395462007-02-01T09:04:00.000-05:002007-02-01T09:04:00.000-05:00Actually that is a perfectly acceptable use of the...Actually that is a perfectly acceptable use of the double negative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170327777612109262007-02-01T06:02:00.000-05:002007-02-01T06:02:00.000-05:00What about the double negative use in last sentenc...What about the double negative use in last sentence of paragraph after quotation. That's not 'good to the last drop' either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170298843822332052007-01-31T22:00:00.000-05:002007-01-31T22:00:00.000-05:00Hey, on the subject of hand filed lugs, If Chris d...Hey, on the subject of hand filed lugs, If Chris doesn't mind, thought I would share Tom Oswald filing down some lugs for the expedition camper he is making for me:<BR/><BR/>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWJhW913YkcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170292072560456072007-01-31T20:07:00.000-05:002007-01-31T20:07:00.000-05:00better in the company of herse, as opposed to a pa...better in the company of herse, as opposed to a passenger in one. is johnny much of a singer?e-RICHIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004654079480170475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170289986306996252007-01-31T19:33:00.000-05:002007-01-31T19:33:00.000-05:00Next week he'll be in the company of Herse ;Yes, M...Next week he'll be in the company of Herse ;<) Come on; I'm giving examples, not ratings.<BR/><BR/>Yes, Maxway.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170281060419276642007-01-31T17:04:00.000-05:002007-01-31T17:04:00.000-05:00Wow, Johnny Coast is in the company or Sachs and W...Wow, Johnny Coast is in the company or Sachs and Weigle! That was quick! ;)<BR/><BR/>PS -I think "Maxwell" should be "Maxway", no?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170277451470649522007-01-31T16:04:00.000-05:002007-01-31T16:04:00.000-05:00I left out Curt Goodrich at the old match bicycle ...I left out Curt Goodrich at the old match bicycle company. sorry.<BR/><BR/>mwAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170276621235273522007-01-31T15:50:00.000-05:002007-01-31T15:50:00.000-05:00Nice piece. I too look forward to the next install...Nice piece. I too look forward to the next installment; I appreciate a well-finished lug as well as anyone, and like to read about it. BTW, RS's comments on all this in the old Bridgestone catalogs as well as the Riv reader were the best source of info I've ever read. I still get those out from time to time. <BR/><BR/>One question I have would be on the whole labeling of custom vs. production. What does that mean, really? I have a Paramount built by defunct match bicycle which has superb worksmanship. Sacha White had one and has spoken about how he still strives to emulate certain details. It was an off the shelf 853 bike made by Pacenti, Isaac, Bulgier, Hampsten and the rest of them in a big state of the art shop, and around 700 of these frames were finished to world class standard. For instance, the inside of the seat tube was ground by stone, not reamed, so the post slides slick as snot. Was that production? Yes, of a sort.<BR/><BR/>Similarly, I don't see bikes such as Waterfords as second tier to anyone, and I don't believe that anyone who owns one would ever say such a thing. I know, it doesn't look like a Baylis or Weigle, but functionally, damn good=damn good.<BR/><BR/>What is GOOD, anyway? I dearly loved my old factory-made, brass-brazed, unfiled Bridgestone mtn bikes. Those frames took more abuse in deserts and mountains than I will ever dream of giving any frame again. Pound for pound, buck for buck, I don't even want to think about what I put those bikes through, please don't make me. <BR/><BR/>There's good production, and bad production. For me, loving bikes means loving good bikes that do the job, not some idea of a preferred method. Loving Sachs, letting him do what he needs to do, but also loving all the old rusty Motobecanes, Stellas, Colnagos, Bridestones, whatever, even the candy-green Varsity--everything that got me this far.<BR/> <BR/>best,<BR/>michael whiteAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170276327423112102007-01-31T15:45:00.000-05:002007-01-31T15:45:00.000-05:00Thanks for the info...and all the gorgeous bikes y...Thanks for the info...and all the gorgeous bikes you have built. Maybe some day...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170271170934205632007-01-31T14:19:00.000-05:002007-01-31T14:19:00.000-05:00oops - meant:if i have to -oops - meant:<BR/>if i have to -e-RICHIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004654079480170475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170271118745126002007-01-31T14:18:00.000-05:002007-01-31T14:18:00.000-05:00if i have too -all parts are thinned and filed as ...if i have too -<BR/><BR/>all parts are thinned and filed as much as they have ever been. the only labor missing on a frame with i.c. lugs is the pre-treatment that was needed to blacksmith the parts into fitting over the tubes and conforming to a frame geometry. i still do those types of frames too, mebbe 3-4 times per year, when the order calls for a re-enactment era aesthetic. ya' know - the vintage stuff with the n.r. and s.r. parts atmo!e-RICHIEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004654079480170475noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170262649069451872007-01-31T11:57:00.000-05:002007-01-31T11:57:00.000-05:00I have a couple of handbuilt bikes with beautifull...I have a couple of handbuilt bikes with beautifully filed lugs and I really appreciate the craftsmanship. However I do think that a lot of the filing tradition goes back to pressed lugs which really required to be worked to have a "finished" bike. I don't think it's necessary with modern well designed cast lugs. For instance, I don't think Richard Sachs files them much, other than basic clean-up. Maybe he will share his thoughts on this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170254849265296202007-01-31T09:47:00.000-05:002007-01-31T09:47:00.000-05:00Informative and interesting. Thanks. Look forwar...Informative and interesting. Thanks. Look forward to the future chapters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1170205518892337532007-01-30T20:05:00.000-05:002007-01-30T20:05:00.000-05:00"Geometric discontinuities cause an object to expe..."Geometric discontinuities cause an object to experience a local increase in the intensity of a stress field. The examples of shapes that cause these concentrations are: cracks, sharp corners, holes and, changes in the cross-sectional area of the object. High local stresses can cause the object to fail more quickly than if it wasn't there. Engineers must design the geometry to minimize stress concentrations."<BR/><BR/>That's what I always assumed, but didn't want to disturb anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com