tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post116673041803544590..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: A Few More Photos and First ImpressionsVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1169132545768233062007-01-18T10:02:00.000-05:002007-01-18T10:02:00.000-05:00I'm sorry Campagnolo, you'll have to move to a wet...I'm sorry Campagnolo, you'll have to move to a wetter climate to ride a VO ;<). I'll build up anther frame in a few weeks and try to remember to take photos before the fenders go on.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1169082121432193102007-01-17T20:02:00.000-05:002007-01-17T20:02:00.000-05:00Chris, the bike looks fantastic. How does it look...Chris, the bike looks fantastic. How does it look without fenders, though? I am in California where most of the riding is on dry roads and I don't expect to leave fenders on the bike during the dry part of the year. Do you have photos of a fender-less Velo Orange bike?campagnolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17879165867432742657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167445437076153432006-12-29T21:23:00.000-05:002006-12-29T21:23:00.000-05:00I like $1 bicycles.I like $1 bicycles.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167410709027898332006-12-29T11:45:00.000-05:002006-12-29T11:45:00.000-05:00Care with that CR list, David. You might be walki...Care with that CR list, David. You might be walking unaware into the world of $10,000 bicyles ;-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167317887056555622006-12-28T09:58:00.000-05:002006-12-28T09:58:00.000-05:00Classic Rendezvous. You can search here: http://se...Classic Rendezvous. You can search here: http://search.bikelist.org/<BR/><BR/>This is a link right to the post:<BR/>http://tinyurl.com/3he86Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167316551118834282006-12-28T09:35:00.000-05:002006-12-28T09:35:00.000-05:00Sorry, what's the CR list? Jamais entendu ...Sorry, what's the CR list? Jamais entendu ...Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167312971241911412006-12-28T08:36:00.000-05:002006-12-28T08:36:00.000-05:00David, Most folks think that Mafacs on braze-ons, ...David, Most folks think that Mafacs on braze-ons, if carefully set up, are superior to modern sidepulls. Getting the right cable length and the proper pads is important. The Mafac castings may not be as stiff as the Paul's castings, but they are hardly flexible. Someone put up a long post on the ultimate Mafac setup on the CR list yesterday; it's worth a search of the archives.<BR/><BR/>Leslie, I forgot to ask about the polished versions, but I will.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167235183199941552006-12-27T10:59:00.000-05:002006-12-27T10:59:00.000-05:00Whoops, looking at the pics more closely, it doesn...Whoops, looking at the pics more closely, it doesn't look like you can bolt on one of those little TA racks with the Paul brakes. That's what I have on there to support the front bag, for better or worse. So I guess I'll have to stick with the Mafacs.<BR/><BR/>A related issue: why are the Mafacs a little less than stellar in the braking department? Is it just the pads? I put what I thought were some good modern pads on there but they really don't help. Otherwise, why should one brake stop better than another? Flimsy caliper castings? <BR/><BR/>(Also, are the Paul brakes more suited to modern brake levers? E.g., modern Campy levers pull notably less cable for a given amount of motion that the old Mafac levers. To make it work, you have to use those really wide cyclocross-type straddle carriers, otherwise it just doesn't move the pads in and out very much.)Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167197095346626682006-12-27T00:24:00.000-05:002006-12-27T00:24:00.000-05:00We'll need a set for for the VO rando frame. Any ...We'll need a set for for the VO rando frame. Any news on whether you can purchased the polished version?Lesli Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167163723361667472006-12-26T15:08:00.000-05:002006-12-26T15:08:00.000-05:00There is this company I know that carries them. E-...There is this company I know that carries them. E-mail me and I'll give you the details. I actually need to put in an order for a bunch of Paul brakes later this week so if anyone else wants them...Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167163155392843752006-12-26T14:59:00.000-05:002006-12-26T14:59:00.000-05:00Those Paul brakes are growing on me. Where can su...Those Paul brakes are growing on me. Where can such things be had? I believe they're also available in center-bolt (i.e., non-brazed) versions, correct? (As a bit of a joke, I'm running Mafac brakes on my road bike with a modern drivetrain, but I'm not really thrilled with their stopping power for pack riding -- they don't really give you quite the tight modulation you need. They do stop the bike reasonably well though.)Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167158076164188962006-12-26T13:34:00.000-05:002006-12-26T13:34:00.000-05:00Any frame builder can modify canti braze-on studs ...Any frame builder can modify canti braze-on studs to work with centerpulls. We're looking into having some made, and I have a line on a bunch of NOS centerpull studs.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167149548325137292006-12-26T11:12:00.000-05:002006-12-26T11:12:00.000-05:00Try Mike Barry at Bicycle Specialties in Toronto. ...Try Mike Barry at Bicycle Specialties in Toronto. I'm currently having Mafac centerpull braze-ons done on my Bertin randonneuse to accomadate a set of Mafac 2000s.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167086391480571972006-12-25T17:39:00.000-05:002006-12-25T17:39:00.000-05:00This is beautiful! I nice set of Mafac 2000s woul...This is beautiful! I nice set of Mafac 2000s would look great too!Where do you find the braze-on studs for the centerpulls?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1167078979193508492006-12-25T15:36:00.000-05:002006-12-25T15:36:00.000-05:00Where can I find out about copper plating frame li...Where can I find out about copper plating frame like Richard Pressel's 'Copper Bopper'? All I've been able to find is copper may be a base coat on steel to add nickel and chrome on top of that. I like the subliminal rust color copper, so as not to attract thieves, since rare frame finish. Pragmatic use of a bike, one of its better cariovascular aspects, requires it to be locked up for a period while optimizing time multitasking.<BR/><BR/>As well as a vendor(s), I was wondering how destructive it was to finish it in copper: leaving front and back forks chromed, and just plating 531 main tubes and lugs.<BR/><BR/><BR/>ThanksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166964511345054372006-12-24T07:48:00.000-05:002006-12-24T07:48:00.000-05:00Alf, Thanks. The later Simplex SLJ dérailleurs usu...Alf, Thanks. The later Simplex SLJ dérailleurs usually had silver labels, while the earlier ones had gold.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166941081184431382006-12-24T01:18:00.000-05:002006-12-24T01:18:00.000-05:00Looking good, Chris. I think this is the way I wan...Looking good, Chris. I think this is the way I want to go with my bicycles. I'll let your frames 'settle down' while I save up for one or two of them. Good things are always worth the wait.<BR/><BR/>I'm curious. What's the difference between the yellow labeled SLJ on your bicycle and the silver labeled SLJs that I got from your store?<BR/><BR/>AlfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166895133960492722006-12-23T12:32:00.000-05:002006-12-23T12:32:00.000-05:00Annon, Well the frame is $1450. The parts I used a...Annon, Well the frame is $1450. The parts I used are pretty rare (hi-low Phil hubs, 49D cranks, SlJ dérailleur, etc) and I'd bet you could spend over $2000 and six months on E-bay and scouring European distributors finding all that stuff. But with more easily available, yet almost as nice parts such TA crank, cassette or Campy hubs, SX410 dérailleur, etc, you could set up the frame for $1500 or a bit more. This is just the roughest of estimates.<BR/><BR/>Vlad, The bike is easy to ride no-handed. I'm going to try a heavily loaded front bag this weekend.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166824929737989842006-12-22T17:02:00.000-05:002006-12-22T17:02:00.000-05:00Chris,Beautiful bike? A few questions: how does t...Chris,<BR/>Beautiful bike? A few questions: how does the bike handle no-hands? Also, have you noticed a difference in ride with luggage vs. without? Hands on the bars and hands-off?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166819024894717452006-12-22T15:23:00.000-05:002006-12-22T15:23:00.000-05:00Chris, Up to this stage, minus the bag and includi...Chris, <BR/><BR/>Up to this stage, minus the bag and including the nice front rack, what would the 'total' bike price be in a package (round number estimated)? <BR/><BR/>Very nice and you looks like you could sell allot of those if capable. I don't ever think I've seen a bike that complete of a system. Most custom bike builders rarely, if ever, show detailed build pics. Your expert photography skills adds sizzle to the sell.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Thank YouAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166816213402933182006-12-22T14:36:00.000-05:002006-12-22T14:36:00.000-05:00That bag is the GB86. We keep trying to work on th...That bag is the GB86. We keep trying to work on the VO handlebar bag, but something always gets in the way.<BR/><BR/>The cable hanger is an old Weinmann.<BR/><BR/>The bell is coming.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166815819575733482006-12-22T14:30:00.000-05:002006-12-22T14:30:00.000-05:00Nice! I love the dropouts and the cable hanger up...Nice! I love the dropouts and the cable hanger up front (what kind is that?). The rear fender could be a tad longer, IMO.<BR/><BR/>Where's the bell?Glenn Ammonshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06056589746993017852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166814198672463332006-12-22T14:03:00.000-05:002006-12-22T14:03:00.000-05:00I agree with nv (about the bags). The good bags, w...I agree with nv (about the bags). The good bags, with their leather bits and brass dangles, are too fussy. <BR/><BR/>I'd love to see a simple bag made from something like Filson oiled tincloth. Or waxed, unwashed selvedge denim.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166811597168486732006-12-22T13:19:00.000-05:002006-12-22T13:19:00.000-05:00I would LOVE to buy a nice, clean, simple, well ma...I would LOVE to buy a nice, clean, simple, well made and classic looking handlebar bag that didn't have leather trim or reinforcements. I'm probably the only person with this wish but it's the time of year for wishing...<BR/>Additionally, I'm very interested in the VO Cordura bags (No black please! Already tons of those on the market) - Chris, any plans to have those made?<BR/>Thanks,<BR/>nvAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1166808825022077622006-12-22T12:33:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:33:00.000-05:00Which Berthoud model is it? It IS quite cute.Which Berthoud model is it? It IS quite cute.Lesli Larsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13008748945065043600noreply@blogger.com