tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post116059979803765991..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: A Few New Items and Some UpdatesVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1161025828134899902006-10-16T15:10:00.000-04:002006-10-16T15:10:00.000-04:00Robert there are some okay dynamo-powered ones you...Robert there are some okay dynamo-powered ones you can get, e.g., <BR/><BR/>http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/taillights.asp<BR/><BR/>... hardly the equal of the truly fine old french ones though. <BR/><BR/>Thing is, I dunno if you really want to use a dynamo taillight. In Europe you can't have blinkies -- i.e., the light must be constant -- but here where we proudly drink beer, chase skirt, and watch NFL games, you generally can. I don't think there are any purpose-built ones, but it's not too hard or too inelegant to mount some LED blinkies on the fender though, I'll send you a pic.<BR/><BR/><BR/>______________<BR/>* guys, Robert is now the steward of my old Peugeot! how cool is that?!?Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160774516299179892006-10-13T17:21:00.000-04:002006-10-13T17:21:00.000-04:00I used to lived in that part of the world where ol...I used to lived in that part of the world where old french bicycles can be had at swapmeets for 80 marks and let me tell you the condition of the aluminium fenders was the least of my worries when buying an old "Porteur." <BR/> In this country I've used honjos on my Batavus and Quickbeam, both of which saw heavy use in traffic and spent much of their time locked to a public bike rack, it's been my experience that Honjos age better than frames. <BR/><BR/>I've noticed that many nicer german bicycles Nirosa(sp?) fenders, I thought they were stainless. They sometimes have very attractive taillights mounted to the rear fender.Jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03996689575248828818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160764515626075002006-10-13T14:35:00.000-04:002006-10-13T14:35:00.000-04:00We won't have Honjos for 26" or 650B initially. Bu...We won't have Honjos for 26" or 650B initially. But if the 700c Honjos sell well, I'll get some made in the other sizes.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160758402660994412006-10-13T12:53:00.001-04:002006-10-13T12:53:00.001-04:00Do as my grandfather commanded: measure twice, dri...Do as my grandfather commanded: measure twice, drill once. Better yet, measure twice, have someone else check the fit, then drill.<BR/><BR/>I have GB stainless that I only measured once and regret the fit I achieved but they are durable, easy to clean, and do not behave as david_nj describes aluminum.<BR/><BR/>That said, will Velo Orange carry the Honjos for 26"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160758388223804692006-10-13T12:53:00.000-04:002006-10-13T12:53:00.000-04:00Welcome Ricnie.I've missed your insights since you...Welcome Ricnie.<BR/><BR/>I've missed your insights since you bailed from the CR list over the Wabi issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160739913589741052006-10-13T07:45:00.000-04:002006-10-13T07:45:00.000-04:00Awk! I just put a set of Pyramid fenders on my roa...Awk! I just put a set of Pyramid fenders on my road bike -- it took three hours! Please tell me this gets quicker with practice/a workstand/better (allen heads anyone?) hardware!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160695824337901692006-10-12T19:30:00.000-04:002006-10-12T19:30:00.000-04:00This is good, b/c I put a set of Honjos on my new ...This is good, b/c I put a set of Honjos on my new road bike, and was prepared for a very short life for them. Cool.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160677905086845352006-10-12T14:31:00.000-04:002006-10-12T14:31:00.000-04:00David,I have two sets of Honjos on bikes with side...David,<BR/>I have two sets of Honjos on bikes with side pulls that are fitted really close. It takes all of a rainy Saturday afternoon to get them drilled and adjusted, but once they're installed I never give them a thought unless a stick or something gets wedged. I've never tried stainless so I don't know how they compare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160676253707025382006-10-12T14:04:00.000-04:002006-10-12T14:04:00.000-04:00David, If you walk around Paris you will see dozen...David, If you walk around Paris you will see dozens of bikes with aluminum fenders that are not as well made as Honjos. Many of these bikes are over 20 years old. <BR/><BR/>Honjos are super sturdy if properly mounted. The trick is not to flex them and not leave them "stressed". The holes must be drilled accurately and soft washers must be used. <BR/><BR/>Jan Heine wrote a great article in VBQ that tested SKS, Honjo, and Berthoud fenders. The Honjo fenders came out on top.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160671492446404122006-10-12T12:44:00.000-04:002006-10-12T12:44:00.000-04:00I actually think that those stainless fenders are ...I actually think that those stainless fenders are a better answer in the long run than the elegant but oh-so-fragile Honjos, for most people. The weight difference is trivial and I believe the mounting hardware is better sorted. It would be nice to have them in the Honjo profiles, but one can only ask so much. <BR/><BR/>Another problem with the alloy fenders is the same problem that has driven British sports car nuts batty when trying to align body panels: you move one portion of an aluminum panel and something else pops out of whack. It's really hard to get the Honjos to set up just so and stay that way; easy with the SS ones though.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160664904026853472006-10-12T10:55:00.000-04:002006-10-12T10:55:00.000-04:00No. Berthoud sold the fenders, but they were made ...No. Berthoud sold the fenders, but they were made by another company. I understand that he's the one who recently bought the tooling for them. It will probably take some time get production running again, but who knows?<BR/><BR/>There is another company in Europe that can make similar fenders. I hope we can get some.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1160663369974493212006-10-12T10:29:00.000-04:002006-10-12T10:29:00.000-04:00Weren't those SS fenders Gilles Berthoud fenders? ...Weren't those SS fenders Gilles Berthoud fenders? They went out of business?!?!?!?Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.com