tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post1079376798374261947..comments2024-03-18T10:19:55.782-04:00Comments on The Velo ORANGE Blog: Last of the US Porteur Racks, UpdatedVelo Orangehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38610582964189420352009-09-03T17:46:26.514-04:002009-09-03T17:46:26.514-04:00Mine arrived today. Much better looking in 3D tha...Mine arrived today. Much better looking in 3D than in the photos. My builder is going to have quite the challenge making a bike worthy of the rack.<br /><br />Here is hoping the new manufacturer meets the high standards set by Ahren and friends.Joelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-38446731535012381662009-09-01T15:24:21.919-04:002009-09-01T15:24:21.919-04:00The new models will be a canti-mounted version of ...The new models will be a canti-mounted version of the rando rack and the "Rackaleur" I posted about a few months ago.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-25196060255228628102009-09-01T15:03:48.991-04:002009-09-01T15:03:48.991-04:00CK, could you tell us about the two new models?CK, could you tell us about the two new models?patates friteshttp://www.patates.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-19272928443731807972009-09-01T14:04:35.979-04:002009-09-01T14:04:35.979-04:00Those who want a US-made porteur rack have options...Those who want a US-made porteur rack have options. Call up your preferred domestic constructeur and have at it.<br /><br />Kudos to the US builder for having the strength to focus on what they do best. It's all too easy to fall into the trap of saying yes to everything that your COULD do, and in the process neglect what you should do.<br /><br />Will the Taiwan racks be different, even slightly or with a stamping or logo? I predict that the US made racks will command a premium 40 years from now, and ebay values will reflect that. Maybe. :)Fred Zeppelinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-59169915731306734392009-09-01T13:56:51.926-04:002009-09-01T13:56:51.926-04:00"Thousands" per year includes the five m..."Thousands" per year includes the five models they will be making (two new ones), not just the Porteur Rack. If there really is demand I can have some sent without holes, but for now the goal is to keep it simple and get the details right. And the extra hole makes it lighter!Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-52670690440144324822009-09-01T13:44:47.995-04:002009-09-01T13:44:47.995-04:00They have to commit to making thousands of racks? ...They have to commit to making thousands of racks? How many of these are sold? I've never seen a bike other than my own with one of these racks. Can't be *thousands*!<br /><br />I too value USA made items. All things being equal, leave the container ship out of it.<br /><br />I'm glad I got a couple of these, because the pre-drilled ones just don't have much appeal to me. I don't want an extra hole there, and I don't want it it an approximately correct position. The whole point of this constructeur thing is to do a little handwork and make it right, no! Honestly, it was dead simple to drill holes in my VO rack tangs! It might be easier to just include a hardened drill bit in the package.Dadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09016373487910801383noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-87597220296719515382009-09-01T12:13:45.207-04:002009-09-01T12:13:45.207-04:00Chris,
One more vote of support for your approach...Chris,<br /><br />One more vote of support for your approach of finding reliable, reputable manufactureres abroad. I can't help think that these anti-trade posters would be singing a different tune if their families depended on their small business that sold its products mostly overseas and then found out that a customer switched suppliers because of a preference for domestic-made goods.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-30574848094046689552009-09-01T12:02:41.086-04:002009-09-01T12:02:41.086-04:00Most of my involvement with bicycles in the past t...Most of my involvement with bicycles in the past ten years had been buying old road bikes from Goodwill or the Salvation Army to give to Boy Scouts because the bicycle-shaped objects they buy new at Wal Mart so seldom last the 150 miles it takes to complete the Cycling Merit Badge. I first wandered in here looking for cheap parts. I decided it was cheaper just to find another bicycle that did not have a broken rear axle, but the parts I could not afford here are so pretty I keep coming back just to look. <br /><br />I like to believe Chris when he says shipping production overseas is a good thing, and I am aware many of those old road bikes I bought were made in Taiwan; but it is hard to ignore that it sounds a lot like the guys at Wal Mart when they say shipping production overseas is a good thing. It may be a shame anyone is asking Chris to distinguish himself from those other guys, but they make a lot of sales and it looks like it could be easy to be attracted to their side.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16082900647664766652009-09-01T07:00:44.974-04:002009-09-01T07:00:44.974-04:00It's not like we are abandoning this manufactu...It's not like we are abandoning this manufacturer. It simply makes more sense for them to concentrate on building those racks that sell in smaller quanities, like the models with integrated decaleurs. It's also a VO design, so it's only available at VO and at VO dealers. Finally, the new company is family owned and committed to high quality. I have visited their small factory and came away very impressed. They are, in many ways, like a larger version of the small shop in the US and just as deserving of the work.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-12826556569367616932009-08-31T21:28:07.910-04:002009-08-31T21:28:07.910-04:00I think that you should somehow let customers know...I think that you should somehow let customers know how to get one of the US made racks if you are not going to stock them. I have had items I actualy developed and manufacture myself copied and outsourced, which hurt a little bit. Its hard to keep up with entreprenuers with a bottom line when you have one as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-5475328548351832092009-08-31T21:21:20.854-04:002009-08-31T21:21:20.854-04:00that still really sucks.
Why not still offer the ...that still really sucks.<br /><br />Why not still offer the hand made racks in smaller quantitys?<br /> <br />If they think that they can still have a market without expanding then give them that market.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-52762434312404718592009-08-31T21:19:07.490-04:002009-08-31T21:19:07.490-04:00Also, as to why not offer both types of racks, I s...Also, as to why not offer both types of racks, I simply want to keep thing as simple as possible here and not stock too many duplicate items.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-40567027645800165582009-08-31T21:08:53.105-04:002009-08-31T21:08:53.105-04:00The new rack will be less expensive, but we will n...The new rack will be less expensive, but we will not set the price until they arrive.<br /><br />The US manufacturer of these racks is not interested in making anywhere near the quantities we need. If they wanted to open a larger facility, hire welders, and commit to making thousands of racks a year, I would be happy to work with them. But that is not what they are interested in and I honestly can't blame them. In fact I applaud their devotion to individual craftsmanship over production=line-manufacturing and all the hassles of running such a company.Velo Orangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02835615331417822722noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-16945383335673853722009-08-31T21:01:09.271-04:002009-08-31T21:01:09.271-04:00Will the fence from Taiwan fit the US made porteur...Will the fence from Taiwan fit the US made porteur rack?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-73814070155564356232009-08-31T20:34:52.482-04:002009-08-31T20:34:52.482-04:00Chris,
Any idea how much the overseas racks will ...Chris,<br /><br />Any idea how much the overseas racks will cost?<br /><br />Best,<br /><br />AustinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-1967077507868576392009-08-31T20:15:20.968-04:002009-08-31T20:15:20.968-04:00I don't understand this- superb racks, built ...I don't understand this- superb racks, built by artisans here in the States, turn out to be very popular. You reward that excellence by moving production overseas? This is typical "corporate" behavior. We- society- have no future as long as this business model permeates every aspect of our lives.<br /><br />If demand is greater than immediate supply, keep the production where it originated, and raise the price a bit. Customers will be patient, and there will be balance in the long run. Good products are worth the wait. Quality craftsmanship is worth paying for.<br /><br />I can't be the only person who feels this way.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11033870275303923326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-62892011040992236342009-08-31T19:39:32.041-04:002009-08-31T19:39:32.041-04:00why not offer both, keep ordering from the small b...why not offer both, keep ordering from the small business (and those that want to wait to get one can), but order larger quantities to satisfy everyone else from taiwanYann G.S.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13946197159361678841noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-18270484514388326372009-08-31T18:53:27.134-04:002009-08-31T18:53:27.134-04:00will there be a price difference?will there be a price difference?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-24415034.post-35779547931333990482009-08-31T11:46:07.977-04:002009-08-31T11:46:07.977-04:00Thank you for the heads up. Just put in my order....Thank you for the heads up. Just put in my order. Going to use it as part of a custom every day bike I am building along the lines of the classic French City bikes.<br /><br />I already have a VO constructeur rear rack which was drilled for a Rivendell Homer Hilsen. I am hopeful the builder will be able to adapt it to the new bike. <br /><br />I am pretty excited about the build. Will e-mail you some pictures when it is done.Joelnoreply@blogger.com